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#IPR TRANSCRIPTS// BOXER CARL FROCH KNOWS EARTH IS FLAT

Speaker 1: (00:00)
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Speaker 2: (00:39)
alright, phones are open. (505) 510-4226 and the topic tonight is some boring athlete who says the world’s flat and it’s only noteworthy because he’s an athlete I guess. I think they’re only pointing it out cause he’s a boxer and so they want to make the association. Oh he’s been hit in the head a lot. So obviously he’s a flatter Arthur so I almost don’t want to even mention it because it sounds like a setup anyway, a few other things worth discussing, things that we haven’t brought up yet. Things that need to be discussed. Um, let’s see here. Here’s a few things leading up to the area. 51 CYOP, which was just a completely left. That was a simulation. If anything that was just done for the military to practice. What happens if some internet craze triggers a mass movement or something? It had to be, nobody even showed up.

Speaker 2: (01:38)
No one even showed up. There were 75 people, uh, but leading up to it, the Navy was releasing videos of Thai fighters and flying saucers and some big triangular thing in outer space. Like they’re really pushing UFO belief and I think it was part of the same simulation you see, I think their war gaming just like they were war game with asteroids. I think they’ve been wargaming UFO scenarios and they’re all connected together. So here they are a few weeks ago on Fox news, pretending that they see UFO is, it’s actually the Navy. So this is from a pilot’s owned dash and this is Fox news, you know, totally taken it seriously.

Speaker 3: (02:31)
The U S David has made a stunning admission. Naval officials yesterday confirmed at three separate UFO videos released by the New York times in 2017 and previewed on the show are actually genuine. They do.

Speaker 2: (02:41)
Okay. So that would be Tucker Carlson. Then here we go. He’s um, basically the right wing version of Rachel Maddow, a little matter. I don’t know if he makes more sense, but when you actually look at this, what you’re really seeing I think is just simulation. And war gaming. That’s all interesting though that it ties in cause they use this look, Navy continues to track you. If foes is area 51 raid still looms. So this was again just fiction. It’s a fictional event, which is what they called it when they were originally drilling, doing drills for asteroids that involved in these drills. We’re involving not only FEMA but ESA and the ISS.

Speaker 2: (03:36)
And speaking of drills, there was something that came up today that had to do with the ISS and the hole that was drilled into it by one of the Russians. We’re gonna find that one because a, that’s still a story. We’re still waiting for the ISS to go down. It is the 33rd anniversary. Yeah. The military did threaten to bomb the millennial storming area 51 they sent out a tweet insinuating that if there was a rush, there would be a bombing. And one person did actually rate it and she got arrested. It was a 60 year old woman who walked about a half a mile into the base.

Speaker 2: (04:21)
Now we have these, uh, angry young climate change activists. So Gretta thunbergii, she’s an activist, basically an environmentalist version of David hog now that just blaming you, they’re blaming the older generation, a typical communist ploy, young against old, you ruin the world. You flooded it with guns. Now it’s unsafe. And they have these kids lecturing us and it’s like, well, they’re just regurgitating the propaganda. They live in a simulation. So I mentioned the triangular shaped craft as seen from the ISS. I watched it and it’s pretty much either um, intentionally inserted or it’s some type of, uh, an editing issue in final cut pro. There’s not an object. This is not actually a view of earth from space. It’s kind of a joke. Some people still believe it’s real. And those of you who still pretend to believe that what the ISS is showing is real.

Speaker 2: (05:28)
Two things. One, just because ISS is fake, it doesn’t mean the earth is flat. Like we understand that. I’m not making that argument, but it’s this, when are you going to admit that everything that you see on TV and even in your video games is way more realistic than what they show us? When are you going to stop pretending like their phony little theater is real? It’s really bad these days. Russia refuses to tell NASA what caused mystery leak on the I S S quote, we won’t tell you anything. Now, this ties into the whole plot, which I see having been following this, a scripted plot, which involves the ISS being taken down for the same reasons that the twin towers will be taken down. It’s an attack on a certain worldview and in this case it’s this solidarity where America is still an outlier in so several important ways, namely where something of a pariah because we haven’t completely kowtow to the environmentalist’s and that’s what they’re working on with these kids going outside and marching with signs and blaming us, we didn’t recycle enough so now the planet is going to die.

Speaker 2: (06:46)
There’s studies out that say that millennials are college students would have you call them. Most of them believe the world’s going to end in 2030 they are living in the end times. It’s worse than Christianity because they claim and in fact they’re granted this. They claim to have the backing of science and they don’t know where the science ends and where the religion begins. We live in something of a, a theocracy. If you really get down to her. Okay, here he is boxing champ. Carl Froch says earth is flat and the whole planet has been sold a lie. See, I just don’t know if I’m, this is a good or a bad thing. I think it’s interesting. I’m going to look at it. But this thing about celebrities drop in the flat bomb is kinda misleading. So he may say, Oh, we’ve all been lied to about this, but then he believes everything else kinda like Vegas strong. Eddie Bravo. So he can call the moon landing fake. Say the earth is flat, but he can’t tell that the nightly news is not only fake, but it has the same agenda as the space program. Like they don’t see the big picture, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2: (08:02)
The thirst for truth says ISS goes down and they can enforce their fake space force. Exactly. It’s the next thing. It’s like a new form of counter terrorism. This is their new Pearl Harbor event, the space station going down. And here’s why I think it’s going to be the Russians one. Um, because they have something ready for these kamikaze satellites. And too, um, I, I think it’s because this has always been the game plan that they were never enemies. American, Russia have never been enemies in space. This has always been part of a plan. But I think the agenda, the agenda here is break up the international solidarity about outer space and then give complete control to the Russian and Chinese. Basically. I think that’s how it’s going to be. And um, when it goes down it’s going to obviously, you know, burn up. It’ll outrage a whole lot of people.

Speaker 2: (08:53)
I thought they planned to do it earlier and maybe boarded it because you remember they almost had to shut it down because they weren’t able to send a refueling ship in time. They didn’t think they were going to have it refilled and those Russians had to abort and it was right after the hole. Another interesting thing, interesting point here. After they found the hole in the ISS, one of the astronauts accidentally dialed nine one one from space. They said he butt dialed it. Obviously that can’t happen. Obviously it’s fake. So why was it reported? Well, take these stories together. Uh, drill the hole nine one one. It kind of seems like they’re pref. They’re setting the stage for the next big incident that will create some type of international CYOP. And that’s what made nine 11 nine 11. It becomes an international event. This is also symbolic of the fall of the tower of Babylon, which United all nations under one common tongue to ascend from the earth to space. The common tongue is the internet, obviously. Hey caller, this is the first call of the night. And so the topic tonight, um, I think it’s boxing champ. Carl Froch says the earth is flat. Uh, do you think, uh, first of all, do you agree?

Speaker 4: (10:16)
That’s a good question. This is Tim shirts by the way. Hey IPS, thanks for taking my call. Um, good to see them coming out and saying something other than the mainstream. Um, if, like you said though, it could be a sigh op with him getting punched in the head a lot.

Speaker 2: (10:30)
They made that argument with Logan Paul before Logan Paul admitted it. They admitted that it was a joke. They said, well, obviously it’s because he’s been punched in the head, which is kind of funny now that he came out and he said it was just a joke. So now it’s like, well then what do you blame in? What do you blame it on? It’s just crazy how they, they want to find an organic dysfunction to explain it. They don’t want you to think that there’s a reason for it.

Speaker 4: (10:54)
Yeah. The more I think about it, the more I do think it is flat to be honest. Um, it’s just, it’s, I don’t know that whole thing about it. Wrapping around and then flying around the sun doesn’t really compute in my mind especially, but I think they’re hiding a lot. Uh, I think this is just like the public land, what we see on the world maps and, um, we’re kind of all cuddled into here. But, um, good question. Yeah, I, I, I, I don’t believe the mainstream for a second. I know that everyone who was thousand, the globe model can’t prove it. They just think that if the science has been settled. So it’s really just, um, state sanctioned religion at this point.

Speaker 2: (11:36)
Yeah. That’s kinda my take. And I’m not really all that emotionally invested. So some of them come at me and they’re like, I really want to confront you about your lack of globe belief. And I’m like, I really don’t understand a lot of it. And it’s like, I dunno, the globe works in mysterious ways.

Speaker 4: (11:52)
I wouldn’t be mad if it was either one,

Speaker 2: (11:54)
but, um, I haven’t been convinced by the mainstream science who has had all this time to um, put together their story. And, uh, I think I saw Tim Osman in the chat, um, the other day he was saying to you that he was open minded, but the flat side had it made a compelling point. And to that I say, you know, it’s just some, some people questioning the authorities versus, you know, the propaganda machine in all of its resources over centuries. So it’s hard to compete with that. Well, he, he, he, he is correct in certain aspects when it comes to, there isn’t a cohesive theory behind flat earth that can be competing or said to be better than the globe earth theory as far as what’s accepted today. And of course it’s all based on appeal. So authority, which that’s really the issue here. Do we accept this particular authority? And you and I are obviously not accepting it.

Speaker 4: (12:52)
Not at all. Not at all. But um, yeah, we can get back to this. I wanted to comment on something before I forgot it. With the a nine 11 and the upcoming possible next big uh, event.

Speaker 2: (13:03)
Oh yeah, yeah. I’m thinking it’s the ISS, as I’ve said before, I mean, look, 33 years since the challenger, you know, there’s gotta be a new event that presale is the next advance in the space program. You had the three guys roasting in the launchpad, then we go to the moon. You got the challenger with the seven, then we master low earth orbit. So I think before we can have the space hotels and the lunar colonies and Marsh and colonies, I think they’re going to have another ritual. Immolation slash. Burning

Speaker 4: (13:34)
I think so too. And I don’t know if you’ve seen all the predictions online. The um, the rumor mills are, are kind of heating up in relation to um, November the third what should be like at 33 date, 11, three. And um, people are saying that Seattle’s got, might get nuked and I, I don’t know if that’s true, but I did, um, find this other information from a channel called friends of David Goldberg, which might just be a Lark. I’ve covered it on my channel, but um, he has four dates in his notes that were released like speak ago. They say this guy died and his friends took over the channel. But um, it does seem suspect definitely. But there’s the 11, three days there as well as well as 1216 of this year, four, four of next year, end of next year. So I’m all like that in the chat if anyone wants to check it out.

Speaker 2: (14:27)
LOD. And the only reason we focused on these dates is because we’ve noticed patterns. And I’ve, I’m kind of looking at 11, nine as a particularly nine 11 E date nine one one 11 nine. Now Zack Hubbard by the way, had his YouTube channel shutdown.

Speaker 4: (14:45)
Yeah, I saw that. He just set up a new one. I don’t know if you saw as a new one, but yeah, he had thousands and thousands of that blocked the ability to follow him, which is worse. I’m like, maybe something’s on the horizon.

Speaker 2: (14:56)
Well that’s, that’s uh, that’s gotta be a barometer though. I mean it’s one thing to unequivocally say this was a hoax. This was fake, but Hubbard was doing almost a quasi mystical interpretation of the news using ancient calculations based on numerology. So I don’t know where that could possibly violate the terms of service or, we know

Speaker 4: (15:19)
he was definitely cool and that’s what I liked about him. You know, I couldn’t get on board with all of the numbers stuff, but he did see patterns and um, it was interesting. I’ve learned a lot from him. Like one thing he brought in 11, if you did the geometry on Osama bin Ladin and Chris Kyle, it comes out to 110 in English, ordinal and 47 in reduced or Pythagorean. And those are the Heights of the twin towers and building seven respectively. And I, I just think that’s, um, and they both came out to one 10 47 Osama bin Ladin and Chris Kyle. Uh, but yeah. Did you see what uh, Zach got?

Speaker 2: (15:55)
No, I don’t know what they got him for. I know that there was a,

Speaker 4: (15:58)
Oh, I do, I it was the, um, it was the, I don’t know if you saw Marianne Williamson or whatever her name is, um, came out or they, they were slandering here recently in the press for not denouncing, um, Israel’s like Israeli BRC on nine 11. And he was like, why don’t you bring up, uh, the dancing Israelis? And that’s all he said in his video. And it got, um, taken down for hate speech.

Speaker 2: (16:26)
Oh, that’s interesting. Wait a minute. Tensing rallies, wasn’t that OSI up in itself?

Speaker 4: (16:32)
I, I, it could have been, it could have been, but it was, it was interesting. There’s a bunch of ’em FBI and police documents that had been foiled about, um, people, you know, filming and celebrating the event and then they look into it and there, um, people here on visas from Israel after their IDs service and then they even did like a lie detector test and has the kinda hit and miss results, uh, when they asked them, did you know about this event and do you have any intelligence? Um,

Speaker 2: (17:05)
Oh, I see. I see. I see. Now that’s fascinating because there was a group from Israel that was it called gelatin, the art group that may have been involved in the whole the jumper thing and the people waving.

Speaker 4: (17:17)
Yeah. There’s photos that people have, uh, sent to me. I don’t, I can’t validate it of, uh, they say it’s Israeli art students. Why are in the building with, um, you know, on that floor that had got hit. I can’t play it away.

Speaker 2: (17:31)
Well, here’s what I think they do. I think they plant enough evidence for you to come to the conclusion, depending on which path you take and who you listen to that it was either done by the Jews or the Bush family with the air, with the Arabs, or possibly by the reptilians, like they always have multiple storylines and multiple scapegoats. Same thing with Kennedy. This is classic, so you don’t know who did it. Even with Nipsey, it’s like, was it the Crips? Was it this mentally ill guy? Was it the cops? And I see all these,

Speaker 4: (18:01)
you could even say for JFK who it was, I mean there’s theories that it was the driver theories and ms JackieO theories that it was a lone gunman theory about the people in the grassy Knolls, the theory that he wasn’t even killed, which a lot of us are kind of looking at seriously now.

Speaker 2: (18:17)
Yeah. What makes that one very, very, I think attractive to me is the fact that nobody even saw the damn Zapruder film for 12 years.

Speaker 5: (18:27)
Yeah, that’s a lot of time.

Speaker 4: (18:30)
Although that seems like a hard footage to fake. But yeah, they can do anything in the movies.

Speaker 2: (18:36)
Well, hard to fake when you, when you actually have it, like, look, there’s other stuff around it that I found very questionable. But when you actually look at the footage, there’s some strange things like people facing the wrong direction in waving and there are crisis actors. There’s one crisis actor. And it’s interesting because it’s all in black and white old film. And she’s talking about how she saw the president, he was petting his dog one minute and waving at her and then you got shot. Like it’s, it’s as bad as the crisis acting today.

Speaker 4: (19:04)
Right. And I was listening, man. I was going to ask you if I could use, I’ll send you a side note if I can show this to my, my audience and, uh, get people over to your channel, but your calls doing the news tips. Uh, there was one hysterical phone call where you were like, I’m talking to a woman taking news tips and you said something about you saw a man wearing a headscarf, screaming Allah Akbar. And, um, she’s like, sorry, you’ll have to go to the police department and you asked, um, is that how you’re like, that’s weird. I didn’t know that’s how it works. What about the crisis actor?

Speaker 2: (19:41)
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4: (19:43)
I thought that was super funny cause they always just put them right up. They run them in front of the camera and we’ll just run whatever they say. Um, you know, it makes you think, it’s like when you call over the phone, they don’t listen to you. They tell you to go to the police. But if you’re there at the scene, um, but also, uh, I wanted to add a comment about nine 11. I don’t know if you saw this, uh, you know that John Stewart guy, he went in front of Congress having a hissy fit because people didn’t show up for his testimony or whatever about never forget the heroes victim compensation fund.

Speaker 2: (20:15)
Yeah, yeah. You’re talking about, you’re talking about the guy from I’m the late night show. The government gesture. Yeah. Yeah. He’s the one, he’s been went back then when nine 11 came out, everybody was watching him for his reaction. And now he’s going out there to get all that attention for being a crisis actor and nobody gives a damn. And he’s like pretty butthurt. It’d be like, if you like David hog, you know, showing up to an empty auditorium, he’d be outraged. But

Speaker 4: (20:41)
people, people did care. That’s the, that’s the thing. It was all a sigh out. He was just pretending like Congress care, they were probably in on it. But then CNN on all the CBS, NBC, they all ran with the story. And even my mother who only pays attention to the mainstream news as like, she knows, she knows that I’m interested in nine 11 and she’s like, did you see John Stewart? So they, it was a big, um, mass media [inaudible] to get this bill passed and he complained that there weren’t, um, people interested in, in getting the victims in the, for the heroes, uh, aid. But there’s 332 co-sponsors on this bill and the house out of four 50. Okay.

Speaker 2: (21:20)
Bailey, I got a question though. I’ve got a question here about this whole thing. C, um, some people are under the impression and many nine 11 conspiracy theories are that there was something special in the quality of the way that it just was destroyed. Some kind of chemical or component within the incendiary, which gave people a certain

Speaker 4: (21:39)
termites.

Speaker 2: (21:40)
Yeah. The, or something that gave people a syndrome that later gave them. Okay. Now that’s the part that I am really starting to question because the more I look at the smoke, it reminds me of smoke generators used by movie studios or specifically by the military for cover. For concealment.

Speaker 4: (21:59)
Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know. I’m, I’m tempted, they just overdid the explosives to make sure it came down into its footprint symmetrically at three falls. Well, I don’t know if they, I think they just wanted to make sure that it was traumatic and you know, having a hole in the top of a building, it doesn’t really do that as there’s being pulverized in clouding over the city. But, um, the reason I bring this up and only 12 people, only a out of the 550 representatives who voted on this in both chambers, um, only 14 said no and like 500 said yes. So it was all just the charade. And, um, now they’re coming out and they’re trying to get everybody in New York to take advantage of this, this bill, which crossed through the 4.2 billion in funding and says, Oh, that’s not enough. We already ate through that. Now unlimited funding through 20, 20, 90. So it’s just a medical mafia takeover of our government and a, I’m sure they’re selling all these like hundred dollar bandages and there’s marking up everything because the taxpayer’s paying for it. And I just think that they’re the biggest criminals out there.

Speaker 2: (23:03)
It’s gotta be, it’s organized crime a hundred percent. And I found it interesting too, when I went to go visit a Scientology center and I was given the grand tour and they showed me the theater room and as a way of kind of like, you know, willing new people, they show them this film and it was Scientology responds to nine 11 and it had all these Scientologists in yellow vests at ground zero giving quote stress tests to the nine 11 first responders and to people in shock. And I watch and there was footage of him there and I’m like, how did the church of Scientology get permission to hang out backstage at nine 11 and interact with the people involved to do a a PR thing about how they’re, I guess some type of like emergency response organization. Now I’m definitely shows though that this whole thing is a big theatrical production and Scientology is intimately connected with Hollywood and the whole operation.

Speaker 4: (24:02)
Yeah, yeah. Well now they’re trying to get a, they’re sending out letters to w you know, more than 20,000 um, students and teachers in New York. And I’m sure there’s lots of other new Yorkers who can take advantage of this program. Um, but it’s just, I mean it’s more debt. This is all gonna come back to bite us with hyperinflation. I feel like sooner or later. But uh, one last thing, could you see that a new story that they’ve been pumping in the press a lot about the um, army soldier serving in Kansas. Shared bomb making instructions online.

Speaker 2: (24:33)
No idea.

Speaker 4: (24:33)
He’s got it. He’s got a charge 20 years in prison and a fine of up to 250,000 if convicted. And um, this was interesting. I thought I’d be in this, you know how the FBI agents will like talk to people and kind of eczema on and get them to, to escalate and then use that against them.

Speaker 2: (24:55)
Oh yeah. They’re all, they’re all provocateurs. Absolutely. I used to the federal Bureau of investigation.

Speaker 4: (25:02)
Exactly. This is the quote that the news is all running with you under an undercover FBI agent asked this guy, Smith said, quote, you got anyone down in Texas that would be a good fit for fire destruction in death. I mean, it’s just such a strange question.

Speaker 2: (25:20)
It is. They have to use those key words though. And it sounds childish and stupid, but this was a, this is entrapment. This was a, this is a trap 100%,

Speaker 4: (25:30)
right? A thought grind trap. And this guy says, I’m outside of beta a question Mark. I don’t know enough people that would be relevant enough to cause a change if they died. And it’s not even really, I mean, the way he worded it isn’t even a threat. And um, I don’t know. They’re really starting to push the lines and, and try to make things into thought crimes and dismantle any chance of people coming together and, you know, joining, joining together. Um, that the, I don’t know. I just kinda wanted to hear what you thought about that.

Speaker 2: (26:03)
Well, I have noticed that there had been a number of false while rather anoxia. There were a number of shootings that were prevented in advance by quick snitches and police action and intervention, a number of these things. And so they’re going to show more and more intervention so people feel like they’ve been saved. And I guess they get this group of Pete, this of a population acclimated to the idea that pre crime works. And that’s definitely where they’re going. And it’s also interesting to note that, you know, we’ve been talking about these death fakers and there’s the rapper who we’ve associated with two different stage deaths. One of them being in one in Florida and one was used as a pretext to give the police the right to spy on minors through Facebook in Chicago they called it operation crew cut. And then the other one had to do with mental health awareness and Parkland. So there’s an agenda here that has to do with I think getting people afraid of self radicalized individuals snow longer, just the Qur’an. It’s basically any ideology and the lone gunman threat always seems to work.

Speaker 4: (27:15)
And also self-censorship, people are worried about they’re going to get scooped up or have their door knocked in or get on a chemical. Uh, lobotomies but I’m mom, I’m a big advocate of the first amendment. Congress shall pass, no law abridging freedom of speech. So I, I think people should even be able to threaten somebody directly. They should be able to instigate violence. They should be able to exchange how to make bombs. Um, if they’re gonna do an act of violence, that’s a crime. But you know, they’re really starting, like you said, to new things before the crime so that they can, you know, act before anything goes wrong. Um, and there, there’s gonna be a lot of false positives. Let’s be real, um,

Speaker 2: (27:57)
with what, with what

Speaker 4: (27:59)
[inaudible] or, um, policing.

Speaker 2: (28:02)
Oh yeah, yeah. The absolutely there already is. I mean, look how corrupt the whole system is anyway. Look how many people get thrown away for things they didn’t do. And I saw some story recently, I looked into the subject of trans racial disguises and bank robberies and you can find going back years, um, blacks posing as whites and vice versa, robbing banks and getting away with it. And sometimes a suspect who resembles the person in the mask getting arrested.

Speaker 4: (28:31)
You fit the description. Yeah. It’s, um, the example you gave the other day out of that movie, um, something thunder, uh, with Robert Downey jr, um, was pretty good. I mean that looks more realistic than, well, I’m not going to say cause just in case the weekend is a real person. But, um, if they could do that in the movies, they could do that to Justin Bieber. But, um,

Speaker 2: (28:54)
did, did you see what happened this weekend though with so this weekend with Justin Trudeau in Canada, I go into the Drudge report and it says Justin, is that you? Canada shocked and you see Justin Trudeau and black face and I’m like, wait, what are the odds that here we are talking about Justin Beaver performing as the weekend as a side gig on the weekends and before that can get really mainstream and start to catch on because it’s starting to catch up.

Speaker 4: (29:20)
Canadian Justin comes out with blackface. Yeah, that’s great.

Speaker 2: (29:23)
Yup.

Speaker 4: (29:24)
And um, yeah I think it is damage control to some extent, but, or maybe it’s just a coincidence. I don’t know. But um, it is, it is very interesting. And, um, shoot, I was going to say something. Go ahead.

Speaker 2: (29:38)
That movie was called Tropic thunder and that very convincing. Uh, my, I saw that one and we’ve encountered a few other things, but what we’re talking about broadly though I think is the topic of like, you know, deep fakes. And I think one of the reasons why this is so upsetting as far as like disruptive is that if we can expose a single fake, we’ll say a shooting or a fake terror attack, it kind of puts everything else, you know, up for grabs. Now everything can be questioned. And if we can find one example of a shape shifting reptilian celebrity will, how many others might fit that description? And I happen to think that these stories about clones and reptiles and mind controlled celebrities and people in the news and politicians, I think that’s all just cover for what we’re in covering now, which is the real deep fakes. And I’m seeing so many articles about deep fakes and none of them mentioned 3d hyper-realistic masks. They focus on the digital.

Speaker 6: (30:38)
Yeah, it’s a fascinating subject.

Speaker 4: (30:39)
And you’re doing pioneering, trailblazing work there. They’re definitely keep it up. And, um, that’s pretty much all I had to go over. I am curious though, before we wrap up, what are your thoughts on nine 11? Because I, I’m still just convinced that those, those towers blew up and I know that the planes didn’t do at all, but, um,

Speaker 2: (31:01)
well I don’t even think, look, I don’t think that there were any, uh, planes, uh, I think that was a CGI layer that was superimposed over a live feed with a 16 second delay.

Speaker 4: (31:14)
I think so too. You can see footage of it popping out the other side. But, um, do you think the buildings were CGI or just the Plains?

Speaker 2: (31:21)
Well, I think the buildings were probably, well actually I 33 years in the planning. This thing wasn’t designed to happen like a week before they did it. Pinnock didn’t just decide, Hey, let’s do this one. This was scripted in a long, long time in advance. So I think it was probably not as robust a structure as we would think. It may have been more hollow. How many floors were actually vacuous or empty? I don’t know. But I think it was just a standard demolition with a whole lot of smoke generators and other effects. But I think he was mostly just smoke and mirrors and CGI.

Speaker 4: (31:56)
You could be right. And one more thing before I go look at the buildings that blew up one, two and seven. And if you look at the date of Pearl Harbor, 12 seven December 7th. So, uh, thanks for taking my call. I’ll let, uh, I’ll clear the air.

Speaker 6: (32:12)
Awesome. All right. Thanks man.

Speaker 2: (32:15)
Alright, that’s Tim true then Tim, if you on drop your channel in there, everybody should subscribe. I want to get in the habit. In fact, you know what, I should just start doing, I should program night bot to drop links to other channels of callers or people. And you’re welcome to add your channel to auto hooks.com the pre scripting, the numerology, that’s what gives away their, they’re staged. Hey, what’s up color? Uh, what are your thoughts on the topic of this boxer becoming a flat earth? Or is it just a way for him to get attention?

Speaker 7: (32:49)
It’s just another lost soul swimming in a fish bowl. My friend.

Speaker 2: (32:53)
So do you think it was um, from being punched in the head?

Speaker 7: (32:59)
No, no. There’s all kinds of people that will fall for this shit and we’ve seen it for years and years and years obviously.

Speaker 2: (33:07)
Well, what I’m not doing, and you may have noticed this, I am not advancing bad arguments as in [inaudible].

Speaker 7: (33:17)
I will say that you just represented me probably the best I’ve ever heard you. I’ve heard a lot of uh, misquotes and misnomers and straight out lies from you before. But what you said to that last caller was, uh, you know, there isn’t, in my opinion, there isn’t really a flat earth model to actually look at and in my opinion, uh, you can go and test the globe no matter if the mainstream is talking about the globe or showing us pictures of what you can go and test it yourself cause it’s our reality. So I appreciate that you said that. That was actually really well said.

Speaker 2: (33:50)
Well, what I meant specifically though is about the term theory and the idea of the best possible explanation. And you cannot argue that an incoherent, contradictory, conflicting theory that nobody really has a full grasp on because no one’s been to the edge. You can’t say that’s competitive with the one that we have.

Speaker 7: (34:10)
Yeah. And like I’ve shown before, um, I, I take, uh, the glow are basically time and date or any map model projection or whatever, and it’s all based off the spherical earth. So you can make it into an a projection. You can make it into gall Peters. You can make it into a, the simulation monkeys over there. Did Jason or Ronnie there? Um, topographical, whatever map that is. I can’t think of it right now, but

Speaker 2: (34:39)
I think Ronnie’s mental. I think Ronnie’s the topographical, but I’m not sure [inaudible]

Speaker 7: (34:43)
it says no, no, no. Okay. Now I get it. It’s the stereo graphic map, which is, which is made with satellites, which is kind of funny in my opinion. But

Speaker 2: (34:53)
well, look, this is, this is the whole thing. Um, with a lot of people, I think they just get too caught up in thinking that, right. And they don’t know that they don’t necessarily have all the answers. And so they run to these explanations like I got the model. No, I got the model and that’s why I’ve always been anti model when it comes to it. I’ve got a quick question for you though. So according to NASA, we’re going to be slamming a spacecraft into an asteroid to deflect it for the first time. That’s going to be happening very soon. Are you at all concerned about asteroids?

Speaker 7: (35:27)
No. No. I welcome them with open arms. I would almost hope that a dinosaur event may perhaps happen to atrocity that we call a reality here. Truthfully, I really wouldn’t mind.

Speaker 2: (35:41)
Or are we moving? Are we in the end times from your perspective?

Speaker 7: (35:47)
I agree with you, man. I’ve heard Christians all my life. This is the end times. This is the end times. And then I read about the past and how that was [inaudible] to them. And so the doomsday Colts of the, you know, the eco fascist or or what have you or always threatening that, you know, humanity and they always say save the earth as if the earth is going to be harmed by what we do. Perhaps the earth will be harmed in a way where it will make it unlivable for us as a human species. Perhaps the earth will always rebound. We can’t do shit to the earth.

Speaker 2: (36:23)
Okay. So on Sunday I was watching glow busters and I don’t know if this was just an argument from incredulity or if he was setting up a straw man, but it was based on this observation where a number of individuals, like three or four guys, they had their weapons mountain on some type of a tripod or a stand and they fired their AK 47 vertical and then they ran back and the bullets landed pretty close to them. And so Bob suggested that those bullets should have landed of pretty far distance away because the earth should have rotated from underneath that bullet. Is that a good argument or is that completely flawed?

Speaker 7: (37:04)
Well, when I go to down to Texas to shoot my weapons, uh, in specific, uh, my three, three, eight, we’ll do a Magnum and we, we basically set up a North to South, uh, different shooting spots with, uh, targets, uh, both ways. I know personally cause I’ve tested myself and we’ll get into what proves things to people here in a second. Cause that guy brought it up. But, uh, you know, these apps, all of these apps that you taken, the latitude, they’ve taken Coriolis, they’ve taken winds, they take in air density, they’d taken all these different, uh, basically readings that a, you know, you’re as a sniper back in the day, you’d have a dude sitting there crunching math basically. Um, and I wouldn’t be hitting my targets from over a mile if it weren’t for these apps, uh, with their corrections.

Speaker 2: (37:59)
So you actually account for the rotation of the earth on your long distance shots.

Speaker 7: (38:04)
Yup, definitely. And I have a actually video that I probably could find some time where a, a army sniper who was there at the ranch and I recorded it and was picking his brain about the Coriolis because of the flatter whole topic. So, uh, yeah, that may, that may be something I want to post some time perhaps.

Speaker 2: (38:26)
Okay. So my question here then is, you know, you fire at a target over a mile away, um, how many seconds does it take it to actually reach the target [inaudible]

Speaker 7: (38:37)
uh, matters on the height of the gun basically. So you could, you could shoot a weapon if it’s straight, it’d be the same amount of time from you basically dropping the bullets from that height. So very quickly.

Speaker 2: (38:50)
Okay. So this is interesting because what I’m wondering here then is if you have to account for the rotation of the earth on the sniper shots, how come when those individuals shot their bullets straight up? Uh, the bullets didn’t really drift off course.

Speaker 5: (39:07)
Well,

Speaker 7: (39:09)
we’re talking about shooting straight up as opposed to shooting North, South and also East West. That’s a whole different effect. But, uh, you know, and it gets kind of complicated when you start shooting kind of Northeast or Northwest or whatever like that. But, um, you know, I don’t, I don’t really take that at face value. Somebody shot a gun, a straight up and really at that point it really needs to be like a 90 degrees parallel to the ground. Basically, or perpendicular rather, and shooting it straight up. Um, there are, you know, it does get kind of fuzzy as far as reference frames. Like why doesn’t the plane, uh, flying from East West or West to East have different flight times? And yes, they do. Sometimes there’s headwinds and tailwinds and stuff like this, but this is something that’s very interesting to me is as in, uh, as long as you have powered flight, um, basically Coriolis is, uh, somewhat negated, but when you have a kind of like a projectile, um, it’s totally different physics when it comes to, uh, shooting weapons, ballistics, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2: (40:20)
Okay. I see what you’re saying there. Now when it comes to the rotation of the earth, a lot of fighter earthers will say, Oh, I don’t feel it spinning. So it’s not spinning. But I think it’s important to note that we’re talking about, um, something that takes an entire 24 hour period to go around. So a thousand miles per hour sounds like a lot, but it’s really not compared to, you know, how small we are versus the ball. And I think it’s a terrible argument. I still hear people make it and I’m like, well, why would you feel it?

Speaker 7: (40:52)
Yeah, I’ve always made that argument. Um, it’s mostly because of the whole Eric Dubay, uh, 200 misconceptions and fallacies that he had, you know, where they spin a globe really, really quickly and say you don’t feel yourself spinning that way. Then they show a girl with her mouth open, like on like a roller coaster ride. We’re hurried, you know, cheeks are all puffed out and stuff. It’s really clever tactics that have been put into this. And it is, yes, one revolution per day. And then you start actually calculating at the equator 10, 24 miles per hour a you, you would think that you would feel that, but, uh, don’t,

Speaker 2: (41:33)
Hey, I’ve shared that meme. I’ve shared that meme and many others. I’ve advanced memes that I know to be bad, bad argumentation just to, you know, provoke discussion. Um, I still think it’s funny when Dell pours water on a soccer ball, you know, it’s like, well, the soccer ball doesn’t have a center of gravity, so it’s not really apples to apples here.

Speaker 7: (41:57)
Yeah. And it’s being influenced by the effects of gravity on earth. So I, I told him a long time ago, if we could go up into space and create a large enough mass than we could actually do that. But your honor, it’s a, it’s being effected and so our lakes and oceans and all that kind of stuff. So when people, when people kind of make this straw man, like that last guy, Whoa, two miles means in chat, you know, if he believes the mainstream basically on the, the shape of the earth, it’s like, no. I took what the mainstream was saying, which is thousands of years of science. I’ve taken what flat earth is saying, which is kind of a compilation of five years for the most part. And I tested them myself. I did GPS readings over the Bonneville salt flats that gave us point within 0.5% of the Earth’s radius. I did hundreds of observation, but drones, peanut 193, 200 at the great salt Lake, which is the best place to go and test for, uh, I guess visual observations,

Speaker 2: (42:57)
right? Well, look, you don’t even need to go there. According to Jimmy Kimmel, if you’re in Hollywood, California, you can see the curve from the horizon just by looking.

Speaker 7: (43:08)
Yeah, these people are idiots. Dude. Just like on Alex Jones the other day with deep inside a little Bunny’s rabbit hole or whatever, um, you know, one of his people were like, I saw the curve out when I was, you know, 10,000 feet up. And it’s like, no, you didn’t dude. Um, as far as X axis curvature, now you didn’t, and I’m, I’m pretty sure you didn’t have like a telephoto lens or something on a plane looking for Z axis curvature, which you perhaps could at a certain distance. Uh, 10,000 feet.

Speaker 2: (43:41)
Well, look, you can’t, you can’t even get that high up as a comedian or entertainer without being a Curver. That’s just part of the contract. So I’ve got a question. When you see movies like gravity or these, any of these new space movies on Netflix, doesn’t it seem strange to you that it looks realer than what the ISS shows us or space X?

Speaker 7: (44:05)
No, I don’t think it does. Um, there are that whole, uh, 45 minute uncut, um, video documentary kind of over the ISS with people that are floating, which is something we can’t achieve. And I’ve always kind of made the argument perhaps we could say that they have some anti-gravity technology here on earth that’s better than just saying that they’re on strings or they’re in water when their hair isn’t wet and are not like gurgling.

Speaker 2: (44:34)
That’s, that’s such a bad straw man because you know that nobody has ever suggested there’s water in the, ISS were saying that the external shots, the spacewalks are filmed in a pool and the rest of it’s filmed on a movie set probably in new Orleans.

Speaker 7: (44:50)
I’ve, I have heard people saying that because they get things mixed up and it probably, it’s probably some of the dumber people around this arena probably said that. Yeah, I’ve heard that before. But I’ve also, when you, you know, years ago when you went to the, uh, wherever you went and talked about it, I had a video, uh, explaining everything to you about the demonstration, a Nomex blue screen that they had in their payload when they went up. Uh, you don’t have a blue screen with white stripes.

Speaker 2: (45:21)
Wait, wait, where are you able to explain away the bubbles?

Speaker 7: (45:25)
It’s not explaining in a way those aren’t, those bubbles do not act like they go in a straight line. They don’t, they don’t act like any bubble in the neutral buoyancy lab or underwater in general. So it’s complete mute point. Plus I brought up BZ true talks in old truth are from back like seven years ago who had completely debunked it, showing them, uh, you know, several times that they have leaks that have ice come off. They have different stuff where they, they admit it and they show way better videos than flat earthers do.

Speaker 2: (45:57)
Okay. Then one more thing. Wait, wait, wait. The ISS is one thing, but the star man driving in the Tesla Roadster orbiting the earth had a lot of this, uh, whatever you want to call it, dust that was going vertical from the bottom to the top of the screen the entire time. And I thought that’s weird because every time I’ve driven through a snow storm at night, the snow looks like it’s coming towards me as I’m moving into it. But when star man goes around the earth and there’s space dust, the space dust does not bump against his windshield.

Speaker 7: (46:34)
Yeah, I’d have to, we maybe we could go through that someday. Um, I’m not 100% sure obviously on anything in space, but when it comes to the, the shape of the earth, it’s, it’s so clear about the sun not changing English sides. It rises. It’s sad to, uh, to Southwest steel points. These things all lead humans on the earth that know what they’re talking about. To believe that the, it’s a sphere. Uh, nothing indicates at all that it’s a flat earth and first people to say, Oh, you haven’t proven it to me. First off, you prove things to yourself. You, I could show you evidence and it’s up to you to kind of take on that evidence, that preponderance of evidence and call it proof for a certain subject, but nobody proves things to you. You do that for yourself. So

Speaker 2: (47:23)
well conscious daughter, Hey look, conscious daughter has been out there to soft flats and she’s never seen the curve. Anyway, the call and I’ll talk to you later. Okay. And here is

Speaker 8: (47:40)
Whoa Google

Speaker 2: (47:41)
with their delay. Okay. Call her. So we were just talking about the earth being potentially flat, but just because the space station fake doesn’t mean it’s flat. Do you have any thoughts on the space station? Is it real to you?

Speaker 9: (47:58)
Well, first of all, uh, how did they build it? Did they like take it up there? Uh, piece by piece, uh, add, uh, I mean how did they build it with like, they like would like put a few pieces up there like leave ’em up there with balloons, anchor to nothing and then like a anchor the other pieces to nothing and then go back up and add a few more pieces. Like how would they do it?

Speaker 2: (48:24)
Like Legos is what I assume. I think they just sent up the shuttle and put all the components. I did see a convincing Jiffy simulation of a TimeLapse.

Speaker 9: (48:34)
Yeah. You know how when you build something, when you, when you, you can’t just like, how’d they get it up there? Like how, how would they get it up there? Like they stopped do pieces at a tie. Uh, it did, uh, I mean I’m being, I’m clouded right now, but this is it. This is hilarious. Like that people are still debating this back to you or anything, but this is hilarious.

Speaker 2: (48:54)
Oh yeah, me too. Lucky man. I mean, I’m not emotionally invested. So at this point when people want to defend their globe, I’m like, I get it. I get it. The globe works in mysterious ways.

Speaker 9: (49:03)
Knowledge, by the way, guys, you know I am skating Stacey Axiom now. Yeah man. What about water man? Like I mean, no, let’s just stay on a space station. Let’s not even go to water.

Speaker 2: (49:13)
Yeah. You know what? I would say this. I don’t even think those are, yeah, here’s why. Because you could make valid arguments, but they’re invalidated by their model. They’re starting off with a whole bunch of pre suppositions that are built in. And so unless you accept these things, you know, it’s, it’s just simply, um, it’s comparing apples to oranges and saying that your model’s ridiculous. No, yours is, it doesn’t get us anywhere. That’s why I don’t debate. I just accept them for their beliefs.

Speaker 9: (49:40)
If somebody can, if somebody can come up with how they may, I mean, we already know it’s bullshit. So there was, they didn’t make it if they didn’t make it as, I mean, you know, we ask dumb questions to people just, just, just for the sake of argument. But come on, man. I mean as a floating space station, applying 1700 miles per hour, Jesus Christ and the name of it, the ISS, the ISIS, all this, you know, we’re at war with ISIS. You know, it’s all a, it’s all a play on names. We’re at, we’re at war with ISIS and ISIS, the satellite. And

Speaker 7: (50:12)
you know, we’re, we’re at war without, we’re at, we’re at war with Odessa Hussein. You’ve only got,

Speaker 2: (50:18)
got a few more months until the end of the year. And if they’re going to meet their deadline and bring it down in the 33rd year, which would be poetic, they’re going to have to close shop here in the next two months. Do you have a date? You can predict that the space station will fall down.

Speaker 9: (50:37)
Um, nah, they’re not gonna they’re not gonna bring that thing down.

Speaker 2: (50:40)
No, no. Now you’re just basing, now you’re just nay-saying I’m just kidding. No, I’m really hoping they do. I’m really hoping they do because it’ll do wonders for our traffic because we know it’s fake. We know it’s fake. So if it goes down

Speaker 9: (50:51)
and, yeah, and the, you know, me and me and can be, are on this damage control thing right now. So there’s, the damage control is like super heavy. They don’t know where they go. Um, I don’t know if this, if this little shift in reality was unpredicted, you know what I mean? It’s,

Speaker 2: (51:09)
yeah, no, no, no ma’am. We’re totally off script. We’re supposed to go from coast to coast to agents and proxies of mainstream all over YouTube. We were never supposed to really form a breakaway. And auto hoaxing is a breakaway universe and they don’t have enough agents deployed to prevent it from consolidating and is happening. And it does encompass a cross section of all kinds of people who are recognizing media. Fakery I saw this video today, I’m going to have to pull it up where you see a bomb, like a car bomb explode. Then you see a bunch of people run to the scene and fall on the ground and row and start rolling and pain. And this was a camera that caught it. So what we saw was a CYOP where first is the bomb, then the victim show up, and then the TV cameras show up and you see the victims looking like they got blown up. Like we saw behind the scenes of a sign off. I’m trying to get the footage, it was on live leak. So people have a lot of reason to question what they’re seeing. So at this point, the shape of the earth, you know, they can debate it all day one, you know, we were pulling the curtain down and can be and what he’s bringing to the table that’s cutting edge.

Speaker 9: (52:17)
Yeah. And uh, eh, if, I mean I’m starting to look at everybody now, I’m starting to locate everybody now is, is, I mean, not everybody, but all the, all the people you see on T V definitely are to be looked at. I’m looking at pro athletes too. I’m trying to see if, uh, if, uh, we got any Deion Sanders Bo Jacksons, you know, but it really doesn’t, none of that stuff really matters because that, I mean, it’s just part of deeply, but it doesn’t really matter in the, in the, in the big scheme of things like the flat earth thing is one of the biggest flat earth. The reason why people keep talking about it is, uh, it is one, it’s the biggest lie ever. Uh, and you know, to, to, to understand where you’re at and what you live on is to understand, you know, your past and your future.

Speaker 9: (53:10)
If you don’t know where you’re at and you can’t, you know, you’re not going to know where you’re going. So, you know, no one where you’re at. And having a, a GPS pinpoint over where you’re at is very important. And so if you think you’re spinning around, it’ll be hard to pinpoint yourself. I mean, you can, you know what I mean? Like you, you think that you’re spinning throughout the universe all the time and you’ll never be able to get your bearings. That’s why I flat out just so important because it allows you to gauge where you’re at. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2: (53:38)
Oh, I see what you mean. Like they throw in moral relativity every form of relativity, so where nothing has any meaning, you end up a total nihilist and look, the people who believe in it the most, Oh, we understand everything about it. It’s perfectly make sense. And I’m like, wait a minute, your model says the sky’s falling in few months and we’re all gonna die. And they’re like, I can’t wait.

Speaker 9: (53:57)
If the people believe that, then they, then they’re, they’re going against their cons. It’s like a contradictory thing to what, like, like you know, the whole spinning ball thing is totally contradictory to you having a creator of like to, you know

Speaker 2: (54:14)
what, wait that part though, look, that part I can’t really stand by cause look, let’s say we find out it’s a ball and we’re wrong and it is a big heliocentric thing. I don’t think it takes away, uh, the impressiveness of it. In fact, I would say this, the spinning ball heliocentric model is even more evidence or more suggestive of a divine creator than just a flat plane of the bottom. Like I don’t really think

Speaker 9: (54:38)
the spinning ball thing is, it’s a complete three 66 66 say tannic teaching. That’s all it is.

Speaker 2: (54:49)
Interesting. Well, I call it, I call it sun worship. He, Leo’s is the sun. We’re centered around the sun. But yeah, it’s definitely mystery Babylon or Roman polytheism just superimposed over this quasi scientific bottom.

Speaker 9: (55:04)
Yes. Yeah, yep. And yup. And the, the religions are superimposed. Yup. Yup. That’s a good, uh, that’s a good analogy right there. I mean, for those of you that knows would superimpose this and then, you know, taking that word from pictures and then adding it to something like religion. I mean visually, I mean, imagine that.

Speaker 2: (55:23)
Oh look, actually look on, on the 50th anniversary of the Apollo mission, they actually projected the Saturn rocket on the Washington monument.

Speaker 9: (55:33)
I saw that. I saw that.

Speaker 2: (55:35)
That’s super imposing over their ancient symbol of their sun deity. A more modern symbol. The rocket right there on the 15th anniversary.

Speaker 9: (55:45)
Well, I was on Instagram a little bit earlier and there’s an app now that allows you to do like deep fake shit, like where you can, uh, you know, change your hair, do change your eyes, change your face. It’s an app. Like they were like error. They were like, uh, they were like, download the app right now. And it’s like the face changer app and it’s for everybody. Like you can change your hair to the way your hair looks, the way your teeth look, everything. And it’s right there on app so that they’ve got a deep fake app on Instagram right now for you, for anybody to go get it. Like, you know, and it, it was just on my Instagram probably like 30 minutes ago, so I was gonna make a video about it. But, you know, I don’t waste my time with, with every little, you know, every little thing that I see. But I’m just thinking to myself, like, of all peoples Instagram that could show up on why am mine

Speaker 2: (56:36)
right. Well, I just opted into facial recognition on Facebook. You know, I just, I’m not gonna keep myself completely outside of the arena. I don’t feel threatened by it necessarily, but I’m just seeing where things are going. I, I’m not taking it to the extreme of being paranoid or suspicious whatsoever. And, uh, when it comes to this deep fake thing, I think it’s needlessly, I’m hyped up because they want to distract people from the fact that we’re already full of deep fakes. And even without masks or CGI, you can be a deep fake just by being a liar.

Speaker 9: (57:10)
Yeah. And I know how easy it is to lie now. Um, you know, it’s just, it’s just pretty crazy. But uh,

Speaker 2: (57:19)
but listen to this money model says they tell you what you’re seeing and then you start seeing what they tell you. Absolutely. They tell you what you’re going to see in advance in all of the media, all the entertainment specifically Saifai which prepares you for what they’re going to give you in the fake news and the fake science.

Speaker 9: (57:36)
The thing. And the thing is everybody is programmed right now on, I’m on auto conspiracy. So anything like people, people’s first words was like conspiracy theorists, they’re on, they’re on auto conspiracy now. So the people would rather just call, they just like, I don’t know if that’s like some type of shutdown they have. Like it’s some type of mechanisms.

Speaker 2: (58:01)
It is. They’ve already admitted it. The CIA planted the term conspiracy theorist to smear anyone who didn’t believe the mainstream media news. So to me, yeah. So if you’re not automatically believing it, they want to attack you. So now those of us who are automatically doubting it, um, we’re really the antidote here. I think this is the attitude. Don’t let them call you. Conspiracy theorists say you are a media analysis and if anything we’re conspiracy. Debunkers

Speaker 9: (58:28)
yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they like, um, the people that my job, I have to explain stuff to them. And then once they call me a conspiracy, there’s, um, then I’ll, I’ll give them to something simpler because I understand why they’re saying, I understand why they’re calling me a conspiracy theorist. I’ll instantly, I always, you know, I, I don’t really say too, I don’t have to say too much, but I always back up what I’m saying. Cause I already knew that conspiracy theory thing was coming, but I know they just don’t understand that people don’t understand what’s going on there. Just everybody just felt a bit, he’s busy like making ends meet. And what I was hearing, I think it was John Levy or UAP is like, yeah, they just, everybody just felt worried about making rent that, you know, they’re not, they’re not worried about none of this shit.

Speaker 2: (59:16)
Yeah, that’s absolutely.

Speaker 9: (59:17)
And then, and then, you know, you’ve got people with people that are like, you know, um, I’ve lived their regular life, like as far as like with my maybe moms and like the family life and all that. And I understand that people, when you, when you live at home with your wife and your kids, I mean that’s totally different than like you live in by yourself, you know what I mean? But, um, like it’d be hard to like be like trying to talk about all this stuff and, and at like I don’t see a lot of like families, you know what I mean? Like talking about,

Speaker 2: (59:53)
well look, here’s how it depends on what your objective is. Like. So for example, if I wanted to, I guess sell a lot of people not sell, but you know, convince a lot of people that they ought to take a second look at the news. You have to make them have a personal stake in it. So I’d be like, well look, if your parents then you have, you know, kids in the schools who are going through hyper-realistic school shooting drills who may get PTSD from it and they’re being told that the world’s gonna end in 10 years. So do you want your kids to be paranoid communists, part of a doomsday cold who believe that we got to get to Mars or die? Like, I think if they’re a little more aware of the implications of the propaganda and where it’s leading him cause it’s true, your public schools are going to make your kids into commies. The proof is right now look outside at all these kids in marching.

Speaker 9: (01:00:40)
And I mean, like I said, I mean I, people I fit, I, I’ve, I’ve played, I send a few of my videos here and here to people on my Instagram, but uh, like they never comment. Like I know people from the Instagrams watch the videos, but they never comment or like I never, I know who the people are that comment on my videos. Like, you know, I just recognize people, but there’s never anybody that I, that I know that I grew up with. Any family members.

Speaker 2: (01:01:10)
Okay. Um, hold on a second. It seems like big brothers messing with our connection. Okay. So, but what you’re really ex explaining here about, you know, families have is you’re leaving your family’s religion. And that’s been one of my main points here is the worldview that’s telegraphed or televised. The one that people accept that comes through the TV networks, the celebrities, the politicians, the universities, et cetera. That worldview is a religion and when you break away from it, it’s like leaving a religion and obviously you’re an app estate, you’re going to alienate the people who are in the cult and the more indoctrinated they are into it, the more they’re gonna hate you for leaving. And if they’re hardcore fundamentalists, that’s when they want to throw rocks at you as you leave town. That’s how the religion works. The religious mindset.

Speaker 9: (01:01:58)
Yeah, and just this just the best at all from B bike all. Yeah, he’s crazy as it goes. Fiercely theorist and then I, and then I don’t have to think about it, what I’m saying anymore.

Speaker 2: (01:02:07)
If this was our religion, look, if it was a religion, you’re leaving like a mainstream one of the big five. They would say, Oh, he’s a sinner or he’s corrupt or he’s a reprobate. He can’t be saved. They would say that you need to be saved. So they would have another term. So being called a conspiracy theorist is just another way of being called a heretic or a blessed femur.

Speaker 9: (01:02:26)
You want, you want to know what I call this too though. And I just thought of this too though. Um, I thought about this before. So another thing about all this stuff that we’re coming out as, this is the old, uh, this is the cheating licensed drone. You know what I mean? Like, this is the, this is, this is your wife cheated on you three years ago. And, uh, I didn’t tell you then, you know, and when everything was all messed up, but now that everything’s going good, I’ll tell you now and then Mike, to ruin our friendship type deal, you know what I mean? So,

Speaker 2: (01:02:58)
no, not necessarily, but look, we were, um, pretty much, you know, all of us, we were, um, raised to trust certain things that, um, and you trust people who have good intentions and they trust who, who told them and so on. So it’s not like you’re dealing with people who are specifically liars, but they’re repeaters of liars because they don’t actually, you know, check it. And so, you know, asking questions, skepticism, that’s now being considered a form of terrorism at this point. The questioning somebody grief is a hate crime and not believing is now cause to label you essentially a threat to national security because you’re contributing to all the various things that destabilize the world specifically. I mean, do you believe in global warming?

Speaker 9: (01:03:45)
Well, uh, not, but there’s, there’s this lack of control climate change though, but it’s not really global warming because the, uh, the sea level is still the same. I mean, uh, I live right here in New York and um, I can see that the, uh, water level is the same as it’s always been. Uh, I mean, I don’t know how much it’s raised in the last hundred years, but it looks like the water levels pretty much like, you know, when you go to the beaches and then like the beaches are all the same. Like when I go to Venice beach, I mean the water is still, you know, this, when you go to Venice Thiess there’s like a skate park and the skate park is still the same distance away from the shore that it always is. So the water not getting any higher, uh, than it has when I was a kid. So I mean if there was any type of seat, sea level rise and you know, Venice beach wouldn’t even exist anymore. So, you know, just little things like that.

Speaker 2: (01:04:42)
Right. Well look, none of their predictions have come true with asteroids, with global warming. None of it, none of the dooms days. Jesus has never come back. And they’ve been talking about that supposedly for 2000 years. And people haven’t figured out the game yet. That by predicting the end, making yourself an expert on the end times, you become a [inaudible]

Speaker 9: (01:05:01)
there. How do you, how do you, and how do you, and how do you flood a ball? Well, the ball has a center. How do you flood a ball? Like it’s,

Speaker 2: (01:05:10)
look, if it’s a ball it’s a ball because it has a center of gravity pulling everything to the center. So a flood is consistent with a ball with the center of gravity. So again, we have to remember even though we might have um, an argument against it from being incredulous or calling it dumb cause it is,

Speaker 9: (01:05:28)
do you know what you’re telling me right now? I’m going to tell, I’m going to give you an a, I’m going to tell you what you’re telling me right now. What you’re telling me is that when you get far enough away from water, the properties change and it turns into a jello like substance just because you’re far away from it. So like that’s basically what that theory as far as the water on the spinning law thing, it’s like, well it’s water when you’re next to it and you and you like jump in it, but when you get far away from it then it’s like has jello like properties and it just like sits in a perfect circle of like jello. Like, that’s what they’re telling us that, that because in order for the earth to be a globe, it can’t be a globe, that means it would have to be a Follett plate of glass. Like all the way around. That would be the, it can’t be a ball. Like people are missing essential basic shit. If you, if the earth was a ball, it would have to be a solid ball with no water on it. You know what I mean? And then it would have to be enclosed like a glass ball and then the way they show you and NASA, it’s impossible because it’s a perfect circle and there can’t be a perfect circle of water that will, there is no such thing as a perfect circle of water.

Speaker 2: (01:06:47)
Right. Okay. Well I see what you’re saying with this. Um, I’m looking at this thing too and it is really diff difficult I think to grasp it without a lot of models and reinforcement and explanations and it just does sound like a patchwork of explanations, that’s for sure. But um, as far as the,

Speaker 9: (01:07:08)
they pulled it off. I mean, they, they, the cold part is, I mean, they, you know, they, they got it through there for the most part. I mean, they had us, they had us, they had us for a good run. Uh, you know, I don’t know how I got, I don’t know. I guess it’s the YouTube era, man, you know, but they had a good run. They had a good, uh, they had a good run.

Speaker 2: (01:07:30)
I’m still, I’m still convinced that their weak spot is how advanced and sophisticated the CGI is in the entertainment industry. Because I’m looking at stuff on Netflix and I’m like, man, this is so much better than what NASA gives us. And when are they going to honestly admit it? Hey, look at the ISS and look at Sandra Bullock doing barrel rolls in the movie. And they can’t say that the ISS looks real. It’s, it’s, uh, it’s sad that they have to stand by it.

Speaker 9: (01:08:00)
They are, well, that’s, that’s the, that’s the thing, man. They are admitting it for the people that have eyes to see man. And that’s the cold thing about reality is that they are, for the people that have eyes to see, it’s kinda like they’re kind of by trying to scare you as they’re, what’s going on right now is kind of like people like me and you, they want us to join their side. People don’t like us that have the knowledge what they want us to join up. They don’t want us to be like, you know, trying to expose all of the secrets that, you know, so it’s, it’s kind of like, you know, it’s a true, uh, I was talking to Cathy about that and uh, yeah, so they’re on the fence. They know that we don’t want to be part of that team and, uh, what they know that we’re right.

Speaker 2: (01:08:49)
So it’s really, it’s really nothing they can do. That’s why we adopted the term, uh, a new Illuminati. You know, we’re like, well, you know, we know their secrets, but we just have a different set of values or something and maybe our values ought to replaced theirs. So maybe we ought to take this information and you know, and just kind of just replace them. You know, I considered doing our own PSYOPs might be fun, you know, make, make a target out of the, uh, uh, bad guy out of them. Like maybe, um, I don’t know who I would set up. We gotta write some, but yeah, we could get in the business to compete. We know how it works.

Speaker 9: (01:09:27)
Yeah. I mean in that, that’s kind of like, Whoa, the world is a stage. So they’re kinda like waiting for other people to set up their other like, I don’t know. Like it is, it is. And the thing is, all this stuff, like you said, you, you can’t be emotionally attached to this stuff because it’s, it’s all, it’s all pretty much a joke. I mean, at the end of the day there’s a war, but then, you know, at the end of the war or somebody laughing to the bank,

Speaker 2: (01:09:53)
well look, even if somebody, even if someone convinces me we’re on a ball or I convinced myself, let’s say I buy a drone and I go out to the salt flats and I see the curve, right? Just hypothetically if I did this, I’m still not going to come home and say, Oh, the ISS is real. I’m going to say, well that’s still fake. So what are they hiding? And at this point I would have to surmise, well, they’re hiding the fact that Antarctica is probably the best place on earth and they’re hiding it.

Speaker 9: (01:10:20)
And the messed up thing about that is the people that are faking that, you know, these people are actually, uh, there that, that, that part right there is kind of, that deceptive part is kinda what’s kind of funny because it’s like, why won’t you guys go through all this trouble? A lie. I mean, even if you are paid, I mean, where do these guys go? Like, dude, they can’t be real people because it’s like, gosh, like what? There’s like the scum of the earth.

Speaker 2: (01:10:50)
Well, I think what we have are actors who are not even autonomous. And so we’re looking at puppets, you know, and I look at the events specifically that tie in people from different arenas. So take for example, when Gifford was shot in Arizona and I’m like, okay, well you got a fake shooting in Arizona involving a politician. So you got the fake shootings, the fake news, and then you have the politician in there who’s to an astronaut connected to fake space. And then I look at this as, okay, well you can’t have intersecting PSYOPs unless this is an operation that encompasses all of these things across a broad spectrum. And that’s why I call it the game. You know, government, academia, media, entertainment, it’s all together. It’s a game program.

Speaker 9: (01:11:35)
Yeah. That, yep. You got it.

Speaker 2: (01:11:38)
All right. Well, Hey, I’m going to stay. Yeah, I appreciate your call and Hey, look, you should drop some links to your videos in here. Um, I saw one that was really good yesterday with that Steven Craft and Lester Holt. And what do you think about Curry and Cyrus?

Speaker 9: (01:11:54)
Oh, um, yeah, you guys, uh, that one was a trip, but it, it, it checks out to me. I mean, the more I looked at it as like, yeah, uh, I look at the microscopics of it. Like I said, I, I have, uh, I have those, the same things as the computer has the facial, uh, facial identity recognizes shit like I have, I can, I got that shit in my brain too. So I, I see the similarities and the people, it’s just like Michio Kaku and Bruce Lee with the bushy eyebrow.

Speaker 2: (01:12:28)
Oh yeah. That one’s super obvious. In his kid, Brandon Lee becoming Christopher Green, AMT V, they, a lot of these Hollywood types death fakers they re-emerge in alternative media and it’s because it’s all part of the same act

Speaker 9: (01:12:43)
that Adam Lanza one is fucking crazy.

Speaker 2: (01:12:46)
That one makes the most sense. At first I thought I just used to pass that one on as a joke. Oh look, you got Lanza in hog. They look the same. It’s just basically David Hogg, um, is aged appropriately and so I’m like, well it’s the same actor, just a bowl cut away. [inaudible]

Speaker 9: (01:13:04)
yeah, so that yeah, they don’t even have enough characters to go around. It’s just fucking

Speaker 2: (01:13:09)
one of actually. Okay, so that one. Here’s why though, I think I have a perfect explanation for why they would use the same guy. It’s because it’s an in your face induction of Stockholm syndrome where your abuser is your savior. So they give you the face of the school shooter and now he’s the face of the guy who’s going to save you from the school shooters.

Speaker 9: (01:13:28)
Order order out of chaos.

Speaker 2: (01:13:30)
Yup. All right. Well Hey skating. Stacey, thanks for calling as always. And I have a great night.

Speaker 9: (01:13:36)
Yes sir.

Speaker 2: (01:13:37)
Alright, phones are open. 505-FIVE-ONE-0422, six. Yeah, I think it’s part of the psychological terror. They want to reinforce it. So the guy who’s saving you give me your guns, give me your guns. A little. David Hogg. He’s the guy who shot the kids right before Christmas in 2012 same face, same scary eyes. And you see those scary eyes when David gets mad, look at his here. College students think the world will end in 12 years and look at this guy sign, eat healthy, kill the wealthy. Now what these morons don’t know and look, they’re very well fed. So they may adopt this communism and say, yeah, let’s go ahead and just expropriate the wealth of the 1%. Well guess what? You’re a 1% or if you got a smart phone, if you really want to take your communism, your collects your collectivism to the extreme and where it’s going to lead.

Speaker 2: (01:14:36)
Well you all are in the 1% so you’re, you’re basically voting away your own property. It takes them a little time to figure it out cause I think they have it hard. I mean, I was pretty much um, becoming aware of just how bad the problem is. When I saw occupy wall street hit my town and it was a lot of just pampered capitalists pretending to rebel thinking they would get more college loans or something. They were doing it for the money. They were doing it for college loan forgiveness. They were doing it for all kinds of reasons. Raise the minimum wage, free health care free pot, like they’re basically a bunch of commies, greedy, communist, trying to leverage the power of state to take from other people like every single politician out there, including Donald Trump. So climate activists blocked DC roads and disrupt the commute. Again, this is just a war on capitalism.

Speaker 2: (01:15:45)
Mike Johnson says, check out the cheerleader that killed her baby and got off the hook. She looks a lot like David hog. Ooh, interesting. We’re talking about, that’d be a first. Would that be a first a transgendered crisis actor? I think it would be the first. No wait, the shooter in Colorado recently, but no, that would be one though. So somebody look it up. Somebody look up the cheerleader that killed her baby. I have a question from the comments here. Somebody says, is the CGI from NASA bad intentionally? While some people would say it’s good, well they’ll say it’s not CGI, but no, it’s not that it’s bad intentionally. It’s that it’s aging poorly relative to the acceleration in quality all around it. So you have video games that look realer than the ISS. That’s a problem. NASA, you’re going to have to bring it down and I’m saying 11 nine would be poetic.

Speaker 2: (01:16:48)
11 nine one nine very nine 11 [inaudible] can be says, I found out who the pitcher from the Miami Marlins that died in a boat last year. M M was he 33 27 anyway, they do it here too. Climate. They walk the roads. That’s a show of force. The fact that, Hey, check this out. You guys might want to hear this. So CRO, triple seven had originally raised a red flag with us because when can be called and said, Barack Obama is Epstein in a mask. They hung up on him. So a CRO, triple seven did. I’m a segment here where he addressed censorship itself and he took some calls and he managed to squeeze in. Can be at the end. Take a listen.

Speaker 10: (01:17:46)
Oh there’s, which is so much better than 350

Speaker 2: (01:17:53)
by dialing six 41.

Speaker 4: (01:17:54)
Amazing. Um, again, cause I don’t know how much longer I have on YouTube. Here we go. So it’s, it’s mind blowing. So,

Speaker 10: (01:18:01)
well, you know, I’ll tell you, I have a friend that lives in new Orleans who does that for a living. He works on professional movies and things like that. He is a props and effects person so I can get information from him on how things work and what’s possible and all that.

Speaker 4: (01:18:16)
That, that would be amazing. Again, cause I don’t know how much longer I have on YouTube, you guys. So I’m just trying to [inaudible]

Speaker 10: (01:18:23)
none of us do. Appreciate it. Yeah. None of us do. Right. Can be. Thank you so much for calling man again man. My bad. I’m so sorry. We’ve got to wrap up the show, my friend. But thank you for calling. Take care of me.

Speaker 4: (01:18:34)
Thank you. Alright, we got a little

Speaker 2: (01:18:39)
Camby was trying to set up an interview, but crow’s gonna be busy and so as a his cohost, so he did manage to get in and bring it up. And it is a topic worth considering. And Jason, the coho says he knows people who work in special effects who may be able to give us some insight. Now listen to this. Conspiracy theories might sound crazy, but we can’t ignore them. So this is from time and this is explaining why you can’t ignore people who are wrong or who have radically different interpretations. It’s actually dangerous to ignore them. And here you have a mind map. Only crazy people do mind maps.

Speaker 2: (01:19:25)
Lean Deon says Jason is a speaker at the nextF , E I. C. FEIC. What is that? Oh yeah, the the conference. Yeah, that’s right. Well, Jason is the cohost of the Crow triple seven show, a podcast. A lot of good information. They’re not right about everything. And I don’t know if they auto hoax, probably not. Okay, so the FBI says conspiracy theories are very likely to inspire domestic terrorists to commit criminal and violent acts. Quote that will likely emerge, spread and evolve on internet platforms. And this was from an intelligence bulletin, so they’ve been talking about us behind the scenes.

Speaker 2: (01:20:12)
This is actually from may. So we know we’re looking at an article from back in may where they were, they were already here at this point ready to say people who are following these conspiracy theories are dangerous. Now this PR report was leaked, um, about a week I think before the El Paso shooting. And if you haven’t looked into that, really the one thing I think that sinks the whole case is look at the shooter from El Paso, compare them to the shooter from Dayton and compare them to the shooter from Gilroy and tell me it’s not the same person. Okay. So we have um, a couple more minutes here. If we have any more calls. I have a few things I need to take care of. I’m working on the auto Hoke site, auto hoax.com if you haven’t been there yet, someone find me that I’m looking right now also for the cheerleader that killed her baby. Somebody suggesting that that cheerleader is in fact David hog, infinite plane radio

Speaker 11: (01:21:33)
secret of store and birthing a show. This Swedish girl you discuss that gotten taking any time to get into that or do you think it’s worth examining a little bit?

Speaker 2: (01:21:43)
Hey, um, it’s a little bit, um, I don’t know what happened with the sound. Would you mind just hanging up and calling again really quick? Thanks.

Speaker 11: (01:21:52)
Sure.

Speaker 2: (01:21:53)
Okay, so we’re looking for the cheerleader. Somebody suggested that this cheerleaders a character played by David hog, which is hilarious and it can’t possibly be true, but I’m entertaining the notion on the off chance that it is true. So if someone there, alright, so go ahead and say that again cause I haven’t touched on it yet.

Speaker 12: (01:22:13)
Well they brought over this, uh, what do they say? She is 13 or 14 years old, 16 years old. I’m not even sure, but I, I personally, I think she’s older. I think it’s like a David Hall kind of situation where she’s probably older than the way she’s being presented. Uh, but they’d been trotting her. I mean, she’s been all over the radio and the TV and the, I guess she addressed the Congress, they and the unite. Oh, the UN, she addressed a big UN con fab.

Speaker 2: (01:22:43)
Oh yeah, I saw her, I called her a basically a, an environmentalist. David hog. Yeah, I did see her and she’s running around blaming us for everything and the, the youth are going to kill the old because we’ve ruined the planet. Like they’re very mad at us.

Speaker 12: (01:22:58)
Well her last, her most recent presentation, she broke down into almost what’s happening is this is like we call a teachable moment. You know, the Overton window is like slid open real wide because I guess the idea is that the Stooges that they use, I shouldn’t say Stooges cause she’s just a child. Maybe I don’t even know anymore. Um, it, when they, when they, they go so far with this stuff, they whip themselves into a kind of a hysterical frenzy. And then you see how pathological it is. You see, they trigger themselves I guess. And you watch that happening and then you realize then, you know what I’m saying? It makes it very vulnerable to exposure. I think

Speaker 2: (01:23:52)
you’re right. I’m one of the issues that they have is, and doomsayers all have this issue doomsayers take themselves too seriously, which opens them up to ridicule. If you notice like the Westboro Baptist church, we’re in the end times and youth centers are going to destroy us all. They were laughed off the stage. And so I’m looking at these hysterics and I’m already like, I’m ahead of my ahead of the curve with this one. In 2017, I was already out on earth day megaphone in these people saying that there a bunch of brainwash. She’s so, I think there needs to be a blow back against it because it’s obviously ridiculous and hysterical.

Speaker 12: (01:24:29)
Well, you know what they’ll do? They’ll say, Oh, you guys are, I actually am watching this debate in other venues like, um, there’s a long time baby boomer media critic by the name of Mark Crispin Miller. He was a professor at Hopkins that had a kind of a following mainstream falling for many years. And, uh, I guess he’s defected from the mainstream and become kind of a truther going around and talking about controlled demolition. So nine 11 and stuff like that. So he’s now been marginalized, but he, he published, uh, uh, well actually it was Patrick Henson of 21st century wire who put out this extended extended piece by him, but by others characterizing this Gretta and her behavior, it’s like total psychopathology, you know, really breaking it down, showing how the pseudo science behind it is just a, a kind of a new, yeah, new religion in a way, you know, and, and, and how they, he walks through all the logical points, you know, about how, how it collection and the limited time that data’s been collected. Um, some of the assumptions, uh, all this stuff, he just tears it apart and concludes that basically this child is being, that something really cynical is going on with the manipulation and deployment of this kid. And it posed the question of how much are the parents being paid? Because really what we’re looking at as you have characterized the drills and and the performance of the kids in these drills is child abuse. I don’t think we’re, I don’t think we’re, that’s not hyperbole.

Speaker 13: (01:26:12)
No, it’s not. Look at all those videos you can find of these fundamentalist religions and how they raised their kids and people watch it and they say, Whoa, they’re raising their kids with fear of hell and God’s judgment and hatred for people who are different. And people say, isn’t that child abuse? You see a little kid at the sign, it says God hates fags. Is that child abuse? And I would say, yeah, imposing a radical ideology on a kid is a bit of an abuse.

Speaker 12: (01:26:39)
Well, you’re [inaudible], it’s like recruiting child soldiers, except they’re child soldiers in ideological or psychological or culture comp, a culture war instead of actually literally on the ground, like over at and in Africa where they, you know, I guess unless that’s all, I hope you’re not going to tell me that that’s entirely fake. The recruitment and deployment of children as soldiers in Africa. I had the impression it’s, it’s real, but

Speaker 13: (01:27:04)
Oh, that’s horrible stuff. Oh yeah, it is. And here we have this. Even they drew, they’ve drawn in an analogy saying that the kids in America are going through a crusade because the elders have failed them on climate change in guns. And of course this is all heavily scripted. A bunch of martyrs. They’re trying to get them to vote. It’s all political. Obviously.

Speaker 12: (01:27:25)
This is where I think to me this is probably the most critical strategic thing that kinda gets my blood up because what you’re talking about is a bunch of really corrupt aging baby boomers at the top who are, who are cynically trying to engineer, you know, a sort of 60 style a youth culture, youth culture, youth. Well, you probably are familiar with these terms, but first we had something called the credibility gap that arose over the lies constant exposure of lies being told by Lyndon Johnson and his administration and the Pentagon during the Vietnam war. That would be in the mid 1960s the credibility gap, which became a meme. Then was replaced by something called the generation gap. And that was a, a predictable consequence of, you know, you had young men being drafted to go over here to Vietnam coming back with missing arms. It’s just horrible stuff.

Speaker 12: (01:28:29)
And, and, and everyone knew that this was all based on a tissue of lies and the lies were continually being exposed. So it became a generation revolting against their elders because their elders had been caught lying to them repeatedly, repeatedly. So I, I what I, what I see happening now is you’re going to see a general breakdown as a society, a loss of confidence in institutions. Just the continuum breaking up into this, uh, chaos of cognitive dissonance, incoherence narratives that make no sense. We’re stuff just playing laughable. But in this vacuum, you know what happens because if you put this together with a breakdown of material things, that is to say the collapse of infrastructure, a sudden shortage of consumer goods or gasoline. I saw the hysteria that erupted over the artificially induced gas shortages of that, that two, they had one under Nixon in 73 and people really freaked out then.

Speaker 12: (01:29:35)
And then they, I mean they were literally beating each other up to get, get in line to get gas and then they had another one when Carter was in in 79 so I see how they can put together an atmosphere of psychological hysteria and uncertainty, cultural history and uncertainty with a breakdown in real availability of a, a commodity or a breakdown in infrastructure, and that’s when, that’s when the shit hits the fan and what these guys are playing with here. This is really dangerous for them to call, use their public relations assets of resources in the money that they’re spending to create a sort of pseudo AstroTurf youth revolution, a generation gap. They’re opening up the door to a lot of things.

Speaker 13: (01:30:20)
Oh, they are. David Hogg hinted at something very, very, very sinister about a year and a half ago where he said, I don’t care if the NRA doesn’t listen to me. We’re going to outlive them anyway.

Speaker 12: (01:30:31)
We have to preempt this. I mean that you have to be your generation, you millennials and gen Xers. You’ve got to preempt this. You’ve got to seize. Yes, it is going to be a youth uprising is going to be a generational revolt because let’s face it, the surviving baby boomers in positions of power are rotten to the core. They’re the ones behind a lot of these shit.

Speaker 13: (01:30:53)
I’ve met them. When I went to occupy wall street, I went over there with a sign that says, God bless capitalism. And you know, it wasn’t because I believe in God or capital does. I just did it to egg them on. And it was a bunch of angry silver ponytail. Baby boomers just driving me off. And same thing happened. Um, I walked to a Trump event and walking in, it was the police holding back a wall of angry communist baby boomers. You know, I’ve, I’ve encountered them multiple times and it’s always the same crew and they’re the ones that you see behind the kids,

Speaker 12: (01:31:26)
the ones that are, whether or not, and I think most of them are hired and paid lifetime actors, snitches, confidential informants and rats. Those are the ones that have survived. Really anybody that was a sincere and honest revolutionary, no matter how misled or misguided they might’ve be is probably dead by now or, or powerless. And besides the boomers are so many of them are on opioids. I have to tell you a lot of my contemporaries here in this neighborhood, I live around one kind or another have prescription pharmaceuticals. So they’re not exactly in the best situation to engage in any kind of meaningful political struggle. But the ones at the top who automotive for all I know, they’re getting infusions of of plasma from healthy teenagers like Peter Thiel or who knows what. Um,

Speaker 13: (01:32:16)
okay. Now Peter Till’s an interesting case because on the one hand I see him associated with [inaudible]. Yeah, a lot of the worst stuff. But then when I actually look at what he talks about in his books, like I think zero to one he talks about seasteading, he talks about a number of things that I think are very cutting edge and the concept of seasteading I think needs to be grafted onto the flat earth topic as an end, as something that’s going to be realized eventually. Like, if we’re right and if the world isn’t what they say, there’s going to be a globe Exodus and it’s gonna take the form of seasteading. And so I saw him doing that and I’m wondering, do some of these people in the billionaire club know something? We don’t. Are they preparing for some type of, I don’t know. Um, mass Exodus,

Speaker 12: (01:33:05)
I watched a video of an interview or a small meeting he participated in at Harvard. It’s from quite a few years back before he became really as well known. And I actually had to agree with, I mean just about everything he was saying in this, he was talking about the, the problem of the attempt to break down cultural traditions in the West and how foolish this was because you couldn’t establish a moral equivalence between the sort of levels of tolerance we have here for individual differences and so forth with the norms that are acceptable in most societies and say the middle East or even in say China or places like that. In other words, if he’s talking about the self destructive character of these, uh, I guess globalist. What else can you call them? They’re globalists.

Speaker 13: (01:33:58)
Yeah. Did you hear the last color? Um, and I’ve been at this the second time, I’ve talked to two people who have been very dedicated to beating flat earthers in debates. And I said, aren’t you afraid of asteroids? And they both say, I welcome it.

Speaker 12: (01:34:15)
Oh, they were looking for Dumas. They want that eschatological justification, you know, some kind of a pocket, a secular apocalypse if, if you, what have you, and atheist apocalypse as you called it, where they finally get there. It’s shot in Freud, isn’t it? They will never, I guess is the shot.

Speaker 13: (01:34:31)
Yeah, it would be. It’s like I told you guys so or this validates my system. And it’s the same thing with Christians. I know a couple of Christian doomsayers, Jason and Ronnie laughin Berg, they live in a, a trailer out in Canada. And these guys are saying not only are we in the end times, but we’re praying for it to happen so we can see you get judged. And they’ve told me personally that they can’t wait to see me burning in hell. And I’m like, wait, this type of nihilism is the result of an end times philosophy and end times is like what justifies it? And yeah, the secularist, the atheist, the Helio centrists, the believer in science, they’re a bunch of doomsayers they live in the end times.

Speaker 12: (01:35:12)
Makes me think of, it’s just a more polite version of Charles Manson’s Helter Skelter, I guess if that was, I mean, he may not have even really come up with that. He may have just been sort of the, the Polen adopt, but that’s the sort of chaos race war for example. They were talking about that back then.

Speaker 13: (01:35:29)
Oh yeah. Helter Skelter was definitely playing upon things. And it was also playing into the communist thing because it was of course an uprising against the, the pigs, you know, the pig class. And I think

Speaker 12: (01:35:41)
you gotta be ruthless on this. You’ve got to preempt these rotten corrupt baby boomers and instead of denying the generational uprising because it is going to happen, you should ride that wave by saying, Oh look, all these stupid boomers rolled over for Apollo 11 that’s humility. They rolled over for nine 11 can you believe that? An entire generation of baby boomers who were in the positions of power, who are in the media or wherever else like slaves, like dumb ass sheep and slaves, they wrote over for some of the most stupid frauds they wrote over for Robbie park and G Jean Rosen is a Bay is the quintessence of the kind of baby boomer we’re talking about.

Speaker 13: (01:36:28)
Well, here’s where I, yeah, these guys, you’re right because they’re ideologues. They’re not just like, I’m in it for the crisis actor money. People like Jean Rosen,

Speaker 8: (01:36:38)
he’s in it on second. We have a

Speaker 13: (01:36:42)
gene roses Rosen’s in this thing because he is committed to the goal of disarmament as well as censorship as well as everything else. They’re just, they’re after the bill of rights. They’re after property rights and because the end goal is the end goal for all the different ways that they approach it, it’s the same end goal and I think it’s just total control. And I actually think that the way that they’re going to succeed with a communist revolution isn’t going to be a repeat of Cambodia. It’s not going to be killing fields. David Hogg’s not going to put a red bandana on his head and start shooting old people. I think what it’s going to be is the space program and migrating people into plantations far away.

Speaker 12: (01:37:23)
Well, we have to present people like David hog is victims in a sense of the boomers who are manipulating them, which is like his father probably if his father truly is an FBI agent. In other words, you’ve got to be really crafty about this because if they’re going to try to use the generation of the, you know, a generation gap gambit against you, you’ve got to use it against them. That’s what I say. Instead of denying it, instead of, you know, fighting the wave, just raw, you know, like, like ride the worm, you know, throw grappling, look into it mountains. Oh really? Oh, you boomers, as you say, the ones that are wearing the ponytails and now they’re like aging communists or whatever they think they are. Oh really? You’re the guy. You’re the ones that rolled over Apollo 11 and nine will and F and for nine 11 you’re the ones that wrote ever for Sandy hook.

Speaker 12: (01:38:14)
Oh really? That’s how I think you should play this. I think you should humiliate him and rub it because the trend is going in your dream. In other words, every time is on the side of the hoax busters, the fake ologists, the auto hoax strategy time is on the side of that. You begin to see it because people see through all this stuff and now they’re, they don’t know what to do. Do we just laugh at it too? We know a lot of people just tuning out and ignoring it. I’m hearing that a lot. Oh, you can’t pay any attention to that stuff? No. Yeah. And they don’t even tune into it anymore.

Speaker 13: (01:38:50)
Well, I considered getting involved in this way. Last week I brought this up, I was like, well, why don’t we start instigating a gun grab, let’s get behind Beto who’s a liar and I can prove it. Let’s just start instigating a gun grab and see if we can’t get the environmentalist’s to start snatching guns from gun owners. And maybe that’ll solve a couple of problems.

Speaker 12: (01:39:13)
Well, you want to put them on the spot. You know, I like, I don’t know if that’s the way to go, but I do like when that debate comes up, I do like the idea of putting people on the spot to show how, um, by opportunistically they’re embracing one particular ideological issue, one position on an issue and abortions like that. A lot of things are like that. And th they’re doing it, but it’s be, it’s at the same time, it’s conflated with other issues and manipulated to be conflated with other issues because it’s all being, the strings are being pulled from the top. So what you want to do is get into the gap, into the contradiction inherent contradiction, the logical inconsistency that Dan Roy’s stupidity that they run into when they have to, when they have to bring one issue up against the other and see how stupid they sound.

Speaker 12: (01:40:06)
Like, for example, good example of this is the regulation of vaping to protect children. Uh, accounts are posed to mandatory vaccines where they cram like 20 vaccines, you know, 20 shots into an infant, mandatory compulsory. In other words, they’re going to say the state owns your body enough to, for the body of your kids enough to force him to take it. However many dozen that vaccines are putting in that shot now. But at the same time, we also have the right to tell you. In other words, we’re, we’re looking out for your safety by telling you that, Oh, we have to regulate vaping. Even though medical authorities apparently determine that vaping is healthier than say, cigarette smoking or that it’s healthier in general. But

Speaker 2: (01:40:59)
yeah, when did that change and you know really quick, I want to say, um, vape in peace to Ted summers, vape in peace. Uh, Ted SAHMRI died of vape AIDS. He was the 674th person. So I heard

Speaker 12: (01:41:15)
what if there’s a Komatsu area, a geometry in that and the other one is of course it brings up the question of, um, well I guess it brings up the question of abortion in a way. I mean, how are you going to come down on abortion relative to vac? I mean, what’s the point of being opposed to abortion if you’re going to turn around and vaccine infant, you know what I’m saying and causes it.

Speaker 2: (01:41:40)
Oh, okay. That’s a good one. So you can’t be, um, against force vaccinations on principle, man, that’s an interesting one there. I don’t know. I’m going to have to do a Venn diagram here and see. Cause yeah, there are a number of points where they’re mutually contradictory, where holding one belief would contradict the other. And I’ve seen that time and again, but

Speaker 12: (01:42:02)
the pro abortion people say call it choice. They say, Oh, you know, it’s a woman’s body. But then they really get run into problems. When you start talking about third trimester, you know, and infanticide, that’s when they [inaudible]

Speaker 2: (01:42:14)
Oh, it’s going to get way more complicated once we get into implantable wounds. Right. You know, if you have an implantable womb, can you have an abor like, is that a, you know, that’s something that talking about like, like it’s a real thing. And to me, these are just hypotheticals. It’s like they’re

Speaker 12: (01:42:29)
so donuts dollars to donuts, nay. Rao. All the organizations use the [inaudible] now they’re establishment organizations, so-called women’s organizations that are militantly pro-abortion essentially under the guise of pro choice. I’ll bet if you pin them on this, they need to be nailed every time one of them shows up. They need to be confronted with your customer. You for compulsory vaccination of infants. Are you for the state of California and the state of New York forcing,

Speaker 2: (01:42:56)
wait, wait. Okay. So, um, people who don’t, let’s say vegans for example, there are some people who, um, they’ll call you a bloody mouth if you’re not a vegan. Okay. So, so they’re on principle against the idea of, you know, violence, the violence of eating, living things. So can you be a hardcore vegan and also be in favor of infanticide? Like I wonder if you have vegans who are cool with infanticide, who would even eat babies make an exception. It’s all the salad except for the occasional baby.

Speaker 12: (01:43:29)
Yeah, they’re all for population control. I mean, isn’t that the rationale for political or ideological view? I mean, I’m not talking about health veganism, but the vegans who are doing it because Oh, eating meat is, you know, they’re, they be the same once you were saying we’re overpopulating, which means too many people, which means that they probably be pro-abortion. So that’s a great way to put them on the spot. That’s okay. You know, that’s the gap. That’s the contradiction you find in these people who are like, they’re, they’re trapped in some kind of ideological, um, animal form, I guess, graduate and animal for them, you could call it. And as long as they keep neurotically retreading that same territory over and over again, they never break out of it. And they never questioned more fundamental things like, you know, what kind of planet are we on and why they’ve been aligned to us about it all. Yeah.

Speaker 2: (01:44:17)
Well they all end up in the same place nihilism where we have the Christians who are saying please God murder everybody. And then you have the environmentalist who are like, Oh an asteroid coming. Good. Mankind needs to die. So they all end up in the same spot.

Speaker 12: (01:44:32)
Yeah. Anyway. Only one more thing I wanted to say before I get off. Um, the, um, the deep faking of personalities of celebrity figures, even political figures. This is it in a way. It is very tricky because there are some people out there who knew her saying, Oh women, you guys are going, you’re saying like Lester hold is really uh,

Speaker 2: (01:44:55)
Phillip crafty. Yeah, it’s, it’s hilarious, right?

Speaker 12: (01:44:59)
Yeah. They don’t want to, they haven’t really looked at it closely and they’re kind of put off by the idea. But what I’m seeing is a lot of people out there, young people especially who are completely tuned out to pop to the, you know, political news and stuff like that. Cause they know it’s all allies. They’re tuned into the music and the culture and so they’re looking at these celebrities. That’s the narrative that they follow is some of these celebrities and when they get hip to something like a fake death, they start talking about, Hey, you see two still alive here and talking like that. Two bucks, maybe Prince still alive. Oh, what do you mean by that? You mean you think he faked his own death and that just opens the door? Well, God, how big of an establishment would you have to have to support such a such a myth? Such a mythology and what would be the motive behind it? Opens up the door, but you’re right, the celebrity fake. That is a week. It’s a kink in the armor. It’s more than that. It’s like a gap in the armor. You should definitely slide the dag or right in and twist it around. Right.

Speaker 2: (01:46:03)
Do you agree with our assessment that the Justin Trudeau blackface controversy was deliberately put out there to diffuse what we started with Justin Beaver,

Speaker 12: (01:46:12)
I got to say, I went out to do a Google search on Justin Bieber and, and weekend, and that’s what came back. It said at first I thought, what does that have to? And then uh, Oh, they’re talking about Justin Trudeau. What’s this? I wasn’t even aware of the story, so wow. The timing of it is unbelievable.

Speaker 2: (01:46:32)
Oh yeah, look, and this morning, okay, so we’ve been really hitting on this. Miley Cyrus playing a wifey for Stephen Curry and we’ve been saying this is a, a thing. Well, she ends up being discussed on Vlad TV where one of the hosts says Miley Cyrus stopped being black when it stopped paying. Like they start making, they do damage control like the day after,

Speaker 12: (01:46:56)
I guess. I guess we’re, well, Steph Curry, he did. Didn’t he discredit the Apollo moon landing is to say something? I don’t know if he made the case for flat earth, but I seem to recall him. Maybe he was confronting that idiot on ESPN. Max Tellerman, I think really annoying character on ESPN. Max Kellerman was running around calling NBA guys idiots for, for, for doubting the, the authenticity of the Apollo moonwalks

Speaker 2: (01:47:29)
well, yeah, he played into it. He played into it. So you had Kyrie Irving said, think for yourself and then Stephen Curry comes along and he says, I think the Apollo was faked, but then he did damage control. He talked to Mark Kelly FaceTime on Instagram, said, and he actually said this, we should never doubt America and never doubt science. And he was rewarded with his own brand of shoes, which are horrible. They’ve got like, it’s like a moon print on it.

Speaker 12: (01:47:55)
I would look at the timing of his alleged marriage to Ayesha. I would start looking at the timeline of that. That might tell us a lot more than that might confirm things

Speaker 2: (01:48:07)
or I you show it was on Hannah Montana show, but never in the same scene at the same time. So this is a parallel character in my view.

Speaker 12: (01:48:15)
So she’s part of the Disney stable. They’re all blown that out of Montana ER, that’s all. They’re all Disney properties. They are owned lock stock. They are Disney slaves. Disney children. Really. Anyway, a I appreciate your work and uh,

Speaker 2: (01:48:31)
yeah, absolutely. Thanks. Yeah, thanks for calling. Um, as always, um, and you have a great night

Speaker 12: (01:48:36)
and like I say, you’d be ruthless when it comes to the boomers.

Speaker 2: (01:48:39)
Oh yeah. We have it out for them. All right. Thanks man. Yeah, the, the angry ponytails, the, the pinch face, the frowny face ponytails. I’ve confronted them many times. Uh, it, you know, in fact, do you remember that movie princess bride with a Andre the giant? There was a scene where as there’s this really angry lady. Yeah, the blue lady. Okay. This is pretty much what I saw last time. I went to a political rally. I went to a Trump rally and I was surrounded by these. I saw the same face at occupy wall street when I brought out my God bless capitalism sign. Then I went to counter protest earth day and I megaphone the crowd and I said, you’ve all been deceived and you’re brainwashing your kids, which is a valid point. And I saw thousands of these faces and middle fingers. I mean, these people do not tolerate dissent and when they outnumber you, they just feel empowered to show their real. And that is what they all look like. Every single one of them. Even like Rachel Maddow, name [inaudible] name, any leftist, any political leftist of any age. This is what they look like when they get in to gatherings. A big numbers. It’s like that invasion of the body snatchers.

Speaker 2: (01:50:07)
Okay? So Hey look, if you saw this poster on the screen, um, I put a link here. I’m taking a lot of my digital wrench ID penguins and putting them onto posters. There’s a link right there. Also, if you get a chance, go to flat balls.com that would be one of our sponsors.

Speaker 2: (01:50:27)
Oh, we do have a daily premiere. I’m not going to talk about it very much. It has to do with the flat earth pizza gate, so you’ll want to stay subscribed so you don’t miss that. The flat earth pizza gate, there’s a pizza gate meeting coming up in October. You may want to be looking into it. A lot of drama happens when you exposed a con when you expose any type of a controlled opposition. And at this point, you know, it’s not even the globe obsessed, you know, um, debaters who just want to say, Oh you’re dumb cause you don’t agree. Those aren’t the ones that give me any kind of crap. All the resistance we get comes from these people within the research community who feel like, uh, those of us who really don’t go along with their religious agenda or somehow bad for their community. So they’re actually on a hunt for us. It’s almost like a cult in many ways. In fact, I would say it’s a cold. Okay. I found what I was looking for here. So this was from breitbart.com Trudeau downplays Brown and blackface costumes as pranks and I had went, I created a dumb fake base on it. I’m like 99 actually. I’m certain that that story was contrived in order to throw this thing off.

Speaker 2: (01:51:57)
All right. Mike Johnson, thank you for the link. I appreciate that. I will evaluate it. A twitter.com/tim zero Z M a N that would be my account. Trying to see this. Anything else that I missed? This has just been so much going on this week. Um, we got, Hmm. So many things. I don’t want to retread too much of what we already talked about this morning. Can I take one more call and then I’ll have to call tonight? (505) 510-4226. Oh my bad. I turned the ringer off. I’m during the last call. A couple of things. The last caller brought up is this youth uprising and that’s one of the things that they’ve done. You know, they have really created a narrative of scapegoating the previous generation and that’s, you know, absolutely nothing new about that. That’s how the communist have always, um, rolled in. It’s, it’s blaming not just generations, but also men. Blame women, women blame men. MIG Tao is feminism for men. Don’t let any MIG towel believer tell you otherwise. Hey, what’s up color?

Speaker 9: (01:53:30)
[inaudible] man, you’re right.

Speaker 2: (01:53:32)
Oh yeah, absolutely. Uh, do you agree with our assessment here? About the deep fake reality and these celebrities playing multiple roles.

Speaker 9: (01:53:42)
Yeah man, I totally agree with stuff. I certainly agree with it.

Speaker 2: (01:53:46)
Now about the earth being flat, is that something that troubles you or are you accepting of it?

Speaker 9: (01:53:52)
Well, the theme flat or,

Speaker 2: (01:53:54)
yeah.

Speaker 9: (01:53:55)
Yeah, I totally agree with earthy and flat man. Honestly, I think it is. What about yourself?

Speaker 2: (01:54:02)
Have you given any thought to what’s at the edge?

Speaker 9: (01:54:05)
Well, the edge of the earth.

Speaker 2: (01:54:07)
Yeah.

Speaker 9: (01:54:09)
I’m hoping it’s a big pile of cocaine and no black people. What about yourself?

Speaker 2: (01:54:15)
A big pile of cocaine and what

Speaker 9: (01:54:18)
and no black people

Speaker 14: (01:54:20)
[inaudible]

Speaker 2: (01:54:22)
now your fault, you’re calling from the UK. Is it racially diverse

Speaker 9: (01:54:25)
from London?

Speaker 2: (01:54:26)
How diverse is it?

Speaker 9: (01:54:29)
Well, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 2: (01:54:30)
Like I mean I’m wondering like if are you against other demographics in general or is it just blacks? How do you feel about Muslims,

Speaker 9: (01:54:38)
blacks, Muslims?

Speaker 2: (01:54:40)
How do you feel about Jews and Samoans?

Speaker 9: (01:54:43)
Jews and all of them. Somalians. Everything.

Speaker 2: (01:54:47)
So are you someone looking for racial purity and a lot of cocaine go with it.

Speaker 9: (01:54:53)
Mainly. But you see my mate Kevin Panari because in Canada he’s with this girl called grace. He’s a bit of a cold cat. He’s a bit crazy. He’s kind of into that solo shit man. But yeah.

Speaker 2: (01:55:03)
Okay. One more thing and I don’t want to take up too much of your time cause you’re calling from the UK.

Speaker 9: (01:55:07)
No, that’s cool man. That’s right.

Speaker 2: (01:55:08)
Okay, cool. All right. Yeah. So clearly you’re just a troll. So what is your end game here? Like what is your purpose, just out of curiosity? Is it just random or are you somebody who has a dog in the fight as far as flat and round and all that

Speaker 9: (01:55:24)
to rape as many black people as I could.

Speaker 2: (01:55:26)
All right, so that sounds to me like some type of a sabotage call. I think that’s what they’re doing now. Uh, the color, I don’t know if he’s in chat and if he is gimme a URL. I’m curious though, you know, it’s like, well, what is the purpose here? I mean, I really don’t care that much. It’s just like, if you’re going to be a prank caller, don’t be an unfunny prank color. I mean come on. But we’ve seen this before and we’ve called it out the VIN a number of times where like I had this one Marine, he said he’s going to be a Marine and he said the same thing. So I’m like, okay, so like what you, and look, I don’t think he’s real. That’s why I was talking to him. I don’t think that was legit because ifs you look at the threat assessment and you look at what the FBI is putting out there saying that white people, racist whites are the new terrorists.

Speaker 2: (01:56:14)
So here this guy, he’s like, Oh yeah, I think the world’s flat and I hate black people. I’m like, Hmm. Sounds like um, somebody is trying to throw in some words that can be picked up and yeah, this is low. Just so you guys know this is low and how low they will go. Knowing that we don’t need somebody to report the video and say, Oh, there’s some racism here. The algorithms will do it automatically. So yeah, absolutely. Poisoning the well with trigger words. I’m not really bothered by it. What I’ll probably do is just go through and mute out those sections. It’s not a big deal, but yeah, I wanted to draw it out because he tried calling four times and I’m like, some guy from the UK keeps calling and calling. I figured it was a setup. Anyway, thanks for joining. This is one I Jack in the shells. Mud flood. I hope London gets hit by a mud flood tonight.

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Speaker 1: (00:01)
Okay, I’ll just start off with a correction. The dress that Melania was wearing, you know the dress that had the towers from nine 11 where they were mocking us. That was from last year. It was a recycled story. See, that’s a dumb fake. And that shows you look, if you hadn’t correct me right now, that version would still be out there. But that shows you how people don’t correct dumb fakes if it confirms their, their bias. And to me it makes perfect sense that she would wear a dress that mocks the nine 11 victims. I don’t know if it changes anything that it was from last year, not this year. Like what did she wear this year? Like a burning, you know, five-pointed, geometric figure design on her back. Like what was she wearing this year? And I looked at the Pentagon closely, uh, more recently and some new footage. And it’s just [inaudible] as you’d expect. Like the production value actually has improved. So for all of you who say, Oh no, they want us to know about this stuff, they’re just dropping hints. Guess what?

Speaker 2: (01:07)
Yeah,

Speaker 1: (01:08)
no, they’re upping their game. And getting better all the time. And man, we seen some hilarious stuff here with some of these ISS types, um, of rusty Shackleford says why ever be back on mixer. I will be. What we’re trying to do here is we’re trying to uh, focus first, let’s just get our thousand on YouTube, what’s get our thousand on D live and then we’ll build up on mixer. So yes, we’re just um, making that happen as we go. Infinite plane, radio.com is still the hub where you’ll find all of the archives. Michael Savannah says Melania wore new panties on nine 11 this year. How do you know, did she pull a Michael Obama a Mumma Michael. All right, so let me get to my minds. The main thing I wanted to do is cover everything because a whole lot of stuff just happened. And mines.com/infinite plane society is my, pretty much my, my blog.

Speaker 1: (02:12)
If it’s worth paying attention to, I’ve probably posted it up here just cause I’m tired of being thrown into Facebook jail and not being able to access the information they need to access. If you didn’t know, I spent six months out of the last year in that Facebook prison, have the tattoos to prove it. Okay, let’s start with this. So those of you who think that we’re way off base, like up, I heard a rumor that quantum of consciousness who’s pretty much like 80% read, maybe he slipping though he’s going into purple, quantum of consciousness said a paraphrasing. Don’t listen to anyone who starts talking about silicone masks and celebrities playing others. Like he said, everything without saying IPS as usual. Same people who say pay no attention to the auto hoaxers who are looking behind the curtain, which is what they always do. So look at the screen and this is for quantum and the people who take his side, just so you know, um, that is the same woman in both pictures, same Bish as they say. And this is just makeup, no silicone, no Hollywood special effects. This is just really good makeup. In fact, let’s go ahead and watch it. It’s a 32nd clip and you will see in 30 seconds someone totally change their appearance. The link for this is at my mind’s dot com account. If you want to watch it yourself. Okay, take a watch.

Speaker 3: (03:55)
It’s a kid and me. No, it should be thrilled. In Maine is the truck.

Speaker 1: (04:04)
Now this is part of a channel that specializes in need of makeup and transformations. This is what you call blackface is not offensive. You know, don’t. What you’re seeing here is I’m really just a master of her craft and so look, it’s that dramatic. So keeping in mind, this is just makeup and so the stuff we’re talking about, the stuff that gentleman, Dez CIA, a master of disguise talked about. It’s far beyond this. I’m just showing you what’s within the realm of possibility just for your information. I mean, we’re talking about so much deep fakery. In fact, this is crazy, but Jim Fetzer has been deep faked. It’s unbelievable. This is probably the biggest story right now. As much as I want to talk about big foot running round in Antarctica, this is way more important.

Speaker 1: (04:58)
Let me find the link. A few other things to this. Just while I find the Jim Fetzer leak, feast your eyes on this. I found a, an interview with Ayesha Curry where she made this face and I was like, where have I seen that before? Cause I, you know, like you don’t have a face often I have to say it, you don’t have a face. You have faces. And by that I mean you really have like an average of expressions, but the face is just not a static thing. And so in order to know if you’re looking at the same person, you have to watch them in action, in motion, watch them emote and notice all the different ways that their face can change. And so I just noticed that when this Ayesha Curry made this certain expression, um, she bulged her left eye, raced her left eyebrow and pulled the corners of her mouth down.

Speaker 1: (06:04)
Well, look at Miley making funny faces on this video. Same thing. We’re joined by Simba. Thirst for truth, 144,000 Jennifer Reeves, night bot. Shout out tonight bot rusty Shackleford, Nat Cole, Orlando productions, exploring again.com. Infinite Jack. Dan has a lot of people here. Morgan and [inaudible]. Thanks for joining. Please share it. This is where it’s at. TV says Hannah Montana has the same plot. Oh yeah, the Hannah Montana thing gives itself away. I mean this character, uh, Curry was in one of those episodes, so she’s been playing these two roles for a long time and there’s a lot of funny business going on at Disney right now. And this is another element that we’re going to touch on today. So I didn’t know this, but the Sandy hook promise was pretty much purchased or merged with Disney a little while ago, like back in January. And what they’re doing now is unbelievable.

Speaker 1: (07:07)
They created a PSA and it’s very well produced. It’s actually deep satire. And for someone like myself who knows how fake these things are, it’s, it’s almost an overdone over rot propaganda. And I think they reached too far. They definitely overreached on it and we’ll watch it because it’s going around. But I just want to show you what the public is being shown. I mean it has these kids walking through school on their first day and one of them says, good thing, I have these new running shoes and he’s running through the hallway away from a school shooter.

Speaker 1: (07:45)
And then you have another kid. I got my new skateboard and he breaks a window and jumps out the window and kids are being shot at. And the commercials, a PSA from the Sandy hooker promise. It’s unbelievable. And they would release this right now when kids are about to go to school. I mean this is Ajit prop at it’s worst. You know, they’re scaring these kids for no reason. Okay, so let’s get over to where was I headed with this? Oh yes. This is the thing. So when it comes to a Jim Fetzer, if you don’t know who Jim Fetzer is, you know he’s been doing this nine 11 truth forever. And hold on a second. Jim Dougherty, uh, Dorchester says quantum of consciousness said he would not be surprised about the same person with roles, but he hasn’t touched the mask yet. Well, maybe he doesn’t know yet.

Speaker 1: (08:37)
Maybe he doesn’t know yet. Okay, let me get back on track with this Jim Fetzer thing because as you know, he was in court being sued by the Sandy hook, uh, uh, people, you know, whatever you want to call it, but check this out. So he’s found in court, I mean in contempt of court for sharing a video deposition. So I guess he was a little too candid with some of his material or so they say, and so he’s being held in contempt, but then this happens, he’s looking at the guy who’s supposed to be suing him and I don’t even want to say the name because their lawyers are all over this stuff on YouTube and he’s contending that the person that he’s being sued isn’t the guy that’s in front of the person who is suing him, isn’t actually the guy seated in front of him. He’s suggesting that essentially that the alleged crisis actor has been replaced by another actor and that the actor is in court and so he’s just calling BS. He’s saying that he basically, Jim Fetzer’s being deep faked

Speaker 1: (09:49)
now out of all the people who have been sued, he’s the only one who hasn’t backed down. He’s the only one Alex Jones back down and did a one 80 even as publisher back down. They had to and he hasn’t. So that matters. That’s why we have Jim Fetzer listed@autohoax.com as a source, as someone to reference as someone worthy of following, I’d definitely follow him and I recommend his channel because we may not agree on everything but you know auto hosting at this level. Now one thing to be wary of however is getting caught in any one event. You know when what happens with that is they end up swarming these topics with a bunch of agents and all they’re doing is they’re just honey potting and creating a caricature, creating public outrage and making the case for censorship. You’re better off just moving on. Like it’s probably not a coincidence that Wolfgang Helbig doesn’t know that David hogs a crisis actor. He thinks that thing was real. Steven Seagal thinks mass shootings are engineered by the government.

Speaker 1: (11:01)
So now I don’t know if he’s a false flagger. More than likely he’s a false flagger and there’s a huge, huge difference. Here is a chasm, and this is one of the lines that we’ve drawn. If you’re still looking for false flags, you’re way behind the curve. It’s way past that. It’s actually auto hoax or GTF though at this point, because they don’t use false flags. They use theatrical productions. It’s just movies. It’s called propaganda. Ajit prop. It’s not new. And so nobody’s dying, nobody’s crying. And that’s not even controversial to say, but they don’t want you to say it because it gives away the game on many levels. Legion James says, if you can’t get on board with Blazey Ford being just as Covena. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1: (11:52)
That’s one of the more obvious ones. And I really think they blundered. But then again, you know, looking back, like I said, uh, they’ve been really bad at this game and in there, I’m trying hard to catch up the, I mean, the space program, it is so hilarious what they’re doing. They had Brad Pitt and I told you Brad Pitt, you know, he’s in this new movie by outer space who Brad Pitt who may or may not be playing the role of Gary Dourdan in which if he is, he’s very talented if that’s his Tyler Durden. No, Gary Durden. Tyler Durden another conspiracy theory for another time. But my point is he’s being interviewed while he’s talking to someone from the ISS about, you know, how did we do, how did we simulate gravity? And the conversation was obviously contrived and phony and all that, but at one point the Ash nought did a little flip and it was terrible. Like, no, like, I’m like, you can’t tell me that this astronauts supposedly on the space station. You can’t tell me that that flip looks realer or at least as convincing of the way that they moved in the movie gravity.

Speaker 1: (13:05)
There’s the truth says that signed the deal that signed the deal with Wolfgang. Oh yeah. When Wolfgang dropped the ball Parkland, that’s where you know, they want to keep you focused on one side up so you don’t see the Sy war. It’s a mind game. It’s a distraction game. No, a Fetzer’s been on board. In fact with New Zealand, he was pretty much the first one to call out the use of augmented virtual reality with the rounds, which I thought was, um, pretty interesting cause when he started talking about that, you know, I was like, well that’s what it looks like. And I mentioned it and max Egan got on my case for it. He said, those of you call that AVR, your disinformation, you’re trying to destroy your credibility. Well anybody who, who pushes that line don’t listen to this person because he suggesting this, they’re probably gatekeeping. And that’s when I learned, and I do want, you know, I thank him for it, max Egan for giving away the game. His whole angle was to get me to say, Oh, it was real, but it was MK ultra rather than it was fake. And the guy’s an actor. And that’s when I realized the game here is they don’t want you to know it’s theater. They want you to believe it’s real. And so the conspiracy theorists are there just to give you alternative stories that you might find more believable.

Speaker 1: (14:30)
I mean, but here it’s just like, I’m pretty obvious. Um, let me go ahead and move on. Like I’m, I don’t care about the opinions of celebrities. OK. Teen girl threatened to shoot 400 people for fun with their AK 47. So she made some joke and uh, she’s been charged with a felony. Again, it could be fake. I don’t know, just bringing it up because these things are being put out in front of us. They’re really trying to inflate the fear of this, you know, ubiquitous shooter, white space debris. Clean up might be a national security threat. We called that out a long time ago that that would be the case. Okay. Here’s another example of freaking ugly. Disturbingly realistic masks and these things are like $5,000, but they basically, I look this to me, it looks like just some guy who didn’t get recruited by the CIA, like his masks are that good. But if you look into these, these videos and I’d recommend all of them really just to get an idea, they can pretty much create foolproof masks all around. Okay. I wanted to show you something else.

Speaker 1: (15:46)
I saw this picture of being passed around and it’s from monsters inc and has a, the monster peeking through the closet and on the wall is a drawing of uncle Roger in the mother engaged in, um, well it’s crayon, but you can see it’s kind of, they were a lewd act. So I saw this being passed around, you know, a few people fainted. I reached for the fainting couch and I was like, this can’t be, so I did some research. I right clicked it, searched the image source. And it turns out that this is a deep fake while it’s actually a dumb fake. But it’s interesting how many people will pass a dumb fake before somebody stops it in its tracks.

Speaker 1: (16:32)
And it’s also interesting that when you see something like this, it doesn’t even raise an eyebrow. Oh, Disney. Yeah. Obviously like nobody even questions it at this point. So I mean, I don’t even care. I mean at this point I’m willing to actually forward this dumb fake, I mean, what do I care? Disney is trash. They’ve actually done worse than this. If you want to see some stuff that needs to be just banned, like really needs to be, and the people who wrote it need to be psychoanalyzed if not investigated is the movie like baby boss’s. Craziest thing putting adult minds and babies and having these weird situations just way disturbing beyond the pale. Okay, so Jim Fetzer has been deep faked by a crisis actor replaced by a new crisis actor. It’s pretty good. In fact, let’s go ahead and read what he had to say about it.

Speaker 1: (17:29)
And here’s a Fetzer leaving. Okay. Longtime conspiracy theorist, retired professor who thinks the Sandy massacre was a, Whoa, sorry. Self-censoring Jim Fetzer, an Oregon resident at university, Minnesota. Duluth. Professor Ameritus of philosophy to violating an order to keep a videotaped deposition of Leonard Pozner confidential and instead he shared it to his fellow researchers. They mentioned that he has the book, nobody died at Sandy hook, which if you don’t know, that book was sensor on Amazon and there was another version of it that’s uncensorable because it’s fiction. But I don’t want to tell you the title right now. For some reason I think that they might go flag it. Okay, so on, on Friday they ordered Fetzer to pay Larry Posner. 7,000. Oh, come on. Posner doesn’t need it. Just opened another go fund me account. Say you stub your toe. I mean they, they seriously, they work at like that. The thing is so rigged. Fetzer told the court he provided the deposition to others in an attempt to prove that the person who appeared in the deposition was not Posner. So basically he was passing around this, um, this message. And look, this is fascinating because look, we sent it to

Speaker 2: (18:49)
[inaudible].

Speaker 1: (18:50)
This is exhibit M and he sent this to the FBI in Florida. D C new Haven, Tampa. What is the consequences for someone posing as someone else at a deposition? And this is what he wrote to a, this is, this is interesting. How does someone get younger since the time of, yeah, there’s a lot of things about this. I don’t want to go too deep into it because it’s a, it’s one of these cases that’s like I said, it’s so overwrought. I mean overrun with the, with agents. Same thing with the F word earth thing. If you talk about F-word earth, you get inundated with agents. Like it’s, it’s ridiculous. You get inundated with agents who all have their own little agendas and I am really not interested. In fact, recently there was this incident where I don’t know what happened, but somebody told me to stop talking about somebody else. So I responded in a Facebook message. I said, um, I don’t know who you are but you know, basically buzz off. And next thing you know, there’s like this two hour video where a couple of people, um, authentic Epstein

Speaker 2: (20:06)
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Speaker 1: (20:07)
and someone else, uh, an expert expert in a big foot ology or whatever. They talk about me for like two hours and they blame me for some guy’s crimes that he committed in 2016 and it was like, I have nothing to do with that. So anyway, sky’s the limit. Says where is the Bigfoot? Probably an Antarctica. I mean when you look at the way that the big foot is equipped as far as like for, you know how thick they are, they’re definitely meant for extreme weather. Yeah. They really don’t belong here. In fact, there’s another, I believe it’s a species of big foot or sub species of variant. It’s a hairless version B loo the Belews out there and South America. And I think that in the Southwest you have these smaller, uh, kinda semi hairy ones. They call them Tupa covers. But yeah, I’m pretty sure the big, big foots, the Sasquatch are actually in Antarctica and they’re a little too far to actually pick up on them.

Speaker 1: (21:08)
Telepathically thirst for truth says Posner kid showed up on a poster at a staged event overseas. Well, it depends on who you ask and who’s explanation you trust. I mean, really the whole case. Like you even say that name and an, it’s like they are really invested in this one and I think it’s because it’s a limited hangout. Same reason I don’t talk about nine 11 very much. And what’s the point like really what’s the point? It’s self evident right now. Now someone was talking about it yesterday, I think it was David Iyke recently said some things about nine 11 that I found to be interesting. And mostly he’s talking about war games and what those are. And you know what they’re doing now is they’re wargaming with UFOs. It’s like the Navy has reported, Oh look what we saw on our screen. And they look like little tie fighters and you know what?

Speaker 1: (22:03)
It’s all just wargaming. They put it in the little program so they could pretend like they’re engaging with it. And just I guess testing to see whether or not the public believes it. Effie gaming says, I think Sasquatch sightings might be a paranormal, but they’re not physical. Well that goes against, I mean look man, if you’re not physical, how do you get a footprint like that? Makes no sense. You can’t go from, it’s as big giant thing with a big foot to, Oh, it’s just like a ghost. It’s, it can’t be both. You got to stick with one or the other and that’s my problem with a Bigfoot believers. They don’t have any evidence and now they’ve made them into the spiritual being. Oh, it’s just a spirit that protects the woods. I thought it was a big monkey man. When did it go from big monkey man to benevolent?

Speaker 1: (22:49)
Like woods, Sprite or whatever dumb says. Would they rather shoot people who storm area 51 or the Antarctic area 51 I mean for the simple reason that a, that’s a military base. Like you’re, you’d be really dumped even go there. Now as far as Antarctica, I don’t think there’s any guns. I mean I don’t think you have anything to worry about. Do you even believe Antarctica’s a con is a continent or if it is, maybe it’s just a continent in one particular region. On the perimeter there’s like 50 or not 50 there’s probably 13 Antarctica’s around this region. If it is what the flat side is suggesting and who knows, maybe it’s not all cold so sky’s limit says very true. The big foot could be outside or a pond. Well that’s what I’m saying. So if there is a no Legion, James says the Patterson Gimley footage of Bigfoot is very compelling. While footage isn’t evidence for one thing and for another, we do know that the government has a vested interest in having people chasing after unprovable conspiracy theories to make them look crazy. There’s a reason why they put these stories on like the weekly world news. It’s all about controlling the narratives, controlling the stories and keeping people gate kept. So it’s okay to talk about Bigfoot all day, but you talk about seaward actors and boom, you lose your channel.

Speaker 1: (24:22)
But as far as the footage proving it, no way you’d need more. I mean you wouldn’t need, I mean one photo wouldn’t do it. One bit of video wouldn’t do it. You would need droppings, you would need claw marks on trees. You would need for, you’d need a, maybe evidence would help, you know, what are they eating? Like there is an entire ecosystem that would correspond to the creature that’s in it, you know, so it’s like you wouldn’t just not notice it. And again, the explanation for the lack of evidence is um, to spiritualize it, which I think is the wrong answer. Like if you’re going to assert the existence of big foot, then why not unicorns? And that’s why pretty much, you know, um, derived the idea at this time.

Speaker 1: (25:04)
I mean, believe whatever you want. I mean, I don’t care, but I just think that when they mix Bigfoot belief with legitimate inquiry, it does in fact delegitimize it. Like people say, Oh, you’re trying to deal with sytemized research into false flags by calling them hoaxes. And it’s like, no, it’s the other way around. And they poison the well all the time with discrediting ideas. Like I watched, I read this interview is with the, some, um, there’s a smaller newspaper out in the Northwest where it was an interview with Mark Sargent where they said, do you believe in flat earth? He said yes. Do you believe in Bigfoot? Yes. And they did it side by side for a reason. So you don’t start with, okay, so you think there it’s flat because you don’t trust the space agencies and they’ve had glitches here and you have these reasons to disbelieve and these assertions haven’t been backed. You’ve reverse engineered this and find it to be less than satisfactory. Like no, they don’t say, well maybe you have a legitimate reason for arriving at this and said, they say, Oh well you believe in anything that’s kooky. Oh you must have seen it on the cover of the national Enquirer.

Speaker 1: (26:12)
And what they’re doing is they’re creating a caricature of what a flat earth there is. And so the flat earth or used to be the anti science type that didn’t want Columbus to sail cause he might go over the edge. That’s where they want you to think. They want you to think that it’s an intellectual deficiency or you suck at history or something. Maybe science isn’t your thing. They don’t want you to think that it’s a matter of non-belief. And I think justified a suspicion if not outright paranoia. So they wanted to think that they people to think, Oh, these people are just lonely. You know, a midlife crisis, need community, kind of a new cult to new religion. And why wouldn’t they think that that’s what has been presented to them? And that’s it. The media does, it presents characatures. They want people to believe, you know, they want you to take that and just associate the whole group with it.

Speaker 1: (27:05)
I mean, that’s why most people think it’s a religious thing because it’s pretty much framed that way by its loudest exponent. Oh, it’s a Bible thing. It’s not a viable thing. The Bible contradicts it and people use this, this is what’s crazy. They say, well, the Bible is right about this. So they believe, therefore the Bible is the literal truth. And so that contains with it a whole can of worms, doesn’t it? Because the shape of the world round or flat, like you’re not gonna see the difference. It’s not gonna look any different to you than it would to a flee. You’re not going to experience it any differently. They’re just going to represent it differently on TV. So who cares? Like it doesn’t make a difference from how you’re going to directly experience it. But if this change in your interpretation of the whole world means you must therefore follow this book to the letter, well then it’s a horrible thing.

Speaker 1: (28:03)
You’re like, wow, the Earth’s flat, therefore I must be a Bible fundamentalist. I mean, how many people really followed that through? And that’s why they hide it. They hide it. They want you to think it’s just this cute little dome on a dish or like a pizza Frisbee thing with a dome over it floating through space. They want you to think that’s it. They don’t tell you that once you get over the edge, it’s a footstool that God uses and he’s just reclining and just watching you and they probably don’t want you to go there because then you have to acknowledge that they’re God. No goddess. God’s a bachelor apparently, which doesn’t make any sense and nobody answers the question. None of the Domers the footstool earthers will answer. What’s the footstool made out of? Where did the tree come from? Where did God get the lumber to make a footstool big enough to hold up the world? Did that come from another world? Was it a planet or was it another flat world? Do we have like layers of flat worlds? Like how does this work? Is he on top of a tortoise? Like they don’t answer because their argument, I mean their, sorry. Their explanations are inadequate, their explanations are way too inadequate.

Speaker 1: (29:22)
Can be mentioned. The star athletes are the ones they don’t want us looking at yet. They don’t want us critically examining anything that they present us with. We’re supposed to just believe it. And yeah, if you didn’t know storm Antarctica, a lot of reasons he might want to go do that. For one thing, you want to go rescue Bigfoot for another, maybe this UFO basis. And I think the storm area 51 types might find that there’s probably more hidden out there than in the Nevada desert, which is probably just a distraction. Orlando production says, I need your help with the fund for legal fees, for discrimination lawsuit. I’m interested in what the, um, what were they discriminating against you for? For not believing in the news. The nightly news.

Speaker 2: (30:14)
Okay.

Speaker 1: (30:14)
Because you know, you guys are domestic terrorists right now there are 83 domestic terrorists listening to me according to the FBI. So if you don’t accept the official story of fill in the blank, you are a terrorist. And they’re really ramping it up right now with the environmentalism where the kids are openly blaming the adults for having ruined the world. Oh, Hey, this is something we called out. So Kevin Hart was on Jay Leno and they did a little off roading and he overreacted and he said, Oh, I’m so scared. We almost died. And his headline comes out. We definitely almost died. And a few days later, Kevin Hart gets into an accident and I’m starting to think the accident was fake because it happens right when this other meme goes viral. And Michael, what’s the incentive here? And it didn’t add up. Like after the car flipped, his two friends are trapped inside and he runs from the scene of the accident in hops in a suburban and disappears. Doesn’t wait for an ambulance anyway. Says here, Kevin Hart sued for 60 million by sex tape partner. So it could be, it could be something like that. It says here she claims he was seeking publicity for his comedy, tore that kicked off later that year when he recorded himself with her in a hotel room. So look, it seems to me that we have a lot of publicity stunts and I think his car crash was a publicity stunt. That’s the bottom line.

Speaker 1: (31:48)
We’re joined by troll versus trolls. Hey, if you’re doing a premiere, let us know. We eagerly await this. You see, there was a community response that was filtered. So earlier I alluded to the video where authentic Epstein and the other person were blaming me for his inability to control his darker impulses. And I was attacked if you read it, we were attacked. He the infinite plane society. And just so you guys know, this includes you, Bob noodle, excuse me, Bob know it all from glow. Bussers said IPS members are a bunch of criminals in prostitutes. That’s what he said. Bob from glow. Bussers insulted every single one of you. Just for listening to this live stream. Not cool, right? Not very inclusive for somebody who wants to speak for this community. Well, as you’ll see in this video where they were attacking me, it was curated so that only the comments that were against us were allowed to go through only the comments that attack the 14 year old girl were allowed to go through. That’s it. So it was very one sided and I don’t believe that those comments adequately reflected the see the true community. So troll versus trolls, that channel is going to premiere it and he’s going to premiere the comments from what I understand so you can respond to the comments and you can see who among you, among us rather in this research group is totally cool with the idea that this person should be exonerated because he was lied to by a minor. Anyway, let’s get back on track.

Speaker 2: (33:44)
Great.

Speaker 1: (33:45)
Teen who said he was bashed by African gang made false report. Just mentioning this because look, I’ve noticed this. Any time you see a selfie in a hospital, it’s probably fake. Like, seriously, it’s, it’s almost a hundred percent now and I’m thinking about it now and I don’t really know people who have been hospitalized who decided now’s the time I want to post my face on the internet. Troll versus troll says, Mark also said on his latest video that he wasn’t going to allow IPS to get credit for auto hoax. Mark says auto hooks went too far. Mark also didn’t believe in global warming until I made the case that that was a very silly thing to support global warming and so he changed course and so did dearth DERP inside the rabbit hole, not going to allow us to get credit. Good luck, man. I believe I broke it to MC media and we coined auto hoax and auto believer. That whole dichotomy, so good luck. Stick to doing commercials of people who drink their own pice. Sorry, 12 Epic sites to visit. If you were a tourist on Mars where canyons are deeper than the grand Canyon, this Mars tourism thing is a thing now. And in Northern Italy there’s actually these caves where for something like 6,000 pounds, you can spend three days living in a simulated Martian environment where you actually wear a space suit and they’re selling this as like luxury vacation when really this is to me,

Speaker 4: (35:25)
imagine you could vacation, listen on Mars. At first glance, Mars appears very different from earth, but if you take a closer look,

Speaker 1: (35:39)
okay, I can’t access that one because I’m not a member of business insider. But let’s check this one out. Brad Pitt interviews and astronauts. Now I want to show you this guy’s flip. So this is Brad Pitt interviewing Nick Hague. And I want to show you the flip here because it’s pretty pathetic

Speaker 5: (35:59)
if things out right after you get done with your Workday. Yeah. You get a face full of itch and then later in the day it goes to a more normal, a more balanced spectrum. And then at night we get rid of that blue light. Um, and we all follow the, the Greenwich meantime and that’s to help synchronize, you know, the international aspect of this. We’ve got a control station in Houston, in Huntsville, Alabama. Then we’ve got to control centers and in Japan and in Germany and then Russia and uh, up in Montreal and all of them need to operate on the same time. So we picked Greenwich mean time. Uh, but you know, really if you, if you’re, if you’re not smart,

Speaker 1: (36:36)
okay. Anyway, so that he’s talking about how time passes. Um, he did ask about the mess in what’s around him and very little of it made sense. Like the guy almost sounded like he was ad-libbing, but I specifically wanted to show you the flip cause this is where I think they give it away that they don’t know what they’re doing anymore.

Speaker 5: (36:54)
Here you go. Watch. Yeah, I’ve got a foothold and a, you know, I can change that up. But basically there’s handrails everywhere and I can just,

Speaker 1: (37:03)
okay. So when he’s upside down, you can see he’s being pulled by a harness and you can see the bottom of his pants tugging up.

Speaker 5: (37:10)
And a shingle space. This way. I see you tapping your feet every now and then. Are you in a foothold? Okay, here we go. Yeah, I’ve got a foothold and a, you know, I can change that up. But basically there’s handrails everywhere there.

Speaker 1: (37:24)
Okay. So right here you can see the bottom of his pants being tugged up

Speaker 5: (37:30)
and I can just hook my foot underneath there. And uh,

Speaker 1: (37:34)
these are harnesses. These are green screens. A number of people have done breakdowns on it. I highly recommend Flathead politics. A Flathead politics does breakdowns and all of these things. So what’s interesting now is they used to have cutting edge effects, but their effects haven’t really improved. And most of what they’ve introduced has only made it worse, including the augmented virtual reality thing. So looking at this, the people who believe this is real, have to compare it to stuff they know to be fake. So those of you who believe it’s real, let’s take for example, Timmy, while Tim, he knows when he’s watching the black crystal that it CGI. And I know he watched it cause he told us so he watched the black crystal. He knows it CGI and it looks realer than this bullshit. So he has to look at this and say, Oh yeah, black crystal is fake. But this is real. I mean this is some two plus two equals five nonsense. If you ask me, I mean this is corny obviously, but uh, you, you can see through it. If you look closer and if you know anything about video editing, you can actually see around the edges that yeah, he’s actually got a screen behind him and these objects for the most part probably aren’t there. The background’s probably interchangeable.

Speaker 1: (38:52)
And again, that’s just Brad Pitt. They’re all pretty much a part of the same CYOP industrial complex. It’s really no difference. You don’t have anything. This case with Brett Kavanaugh being Blazey Ford should tell you that there you have a mix of Hollywood, the school shooting crowd. They have the political crowd, you have the news media all in one room. Sky’s the limit. Says the idea of the moon being a reflection of a giant plane has potential. But it’s speculation makes you wonder if the image of the moon could be earth outside of the reflection looking in. Yeah. There’s a very good cha channel on this topic and I’ve been looking into it and he suggests that there is some type of a correlation here that perhaps what we’re seeing on the moon isn’t actually craters from impacts, but the dark spots are just dark areas on this textured surface, whatever it is, and that the dark spots are the result of apparently or what appears to be a kind of an X Ray or an inverted image where the white glowing areas would represent the oceans and the darker areas represent the land and so he correlates the continents below to what’s above in isolates.

Speaker 1: (39:58)
Okay, here’s the North pole, here’s the South pole. He goes through these things, but if it’s the case and if it’s a mirror and he has these explanations and I’m delving into it, if it’s the case, then it would also suggest that there’s a whole nother landmass just around just on the other side. So if it is a map of the earth, if it is some type of a reflection, it’s reflecting more than just the continents that we know.

Speaker 1: (40:24)
Okay, so check this out. This is, this is again vindication for those of us who call these things out. So Beto O’Rourke, who’s giving a Mason handshake here was busted in a big fat lie and anybody who’s thinking about voting for this guy is going to have to face this and we’re not going to let this one go. This is like Jesse Small at level reality faking. So basically he’s claiming that he spent time with the mother of a 15 year old who bled to death over the course of an hour because they ran out of ambulances because there were so many victims from the AR 15 he claims that he spent time with his mother. The story doesn’t add up. Anyway, one hour. So here’s what he said, and this is from the debate. I met the mother of a 15 year old girl who was shot by an AR 15 that mother watched her bleed to death over the course of an hour because so many other people were shot by that AR 15 in Odessa and Midland.

Speaker 1: (41:25)
There weren’t enough ambulances to get them in time. So we’re going to take your AR fifteens that was a, now here are the facts. The Odessa fire department arrived on 42nd street, seven minutes and 21 seconds after the girl and her brother or reported shock. The ambulance arrived one minute later, 30 ambulances were scrambled to the two locations and many were sent from Midland to even assessed with Odessa. So in other words, eight minutes, not one hour, no ambulance shortage. I told you this guy is David Hogan crack. Maybe he should just go do die-ins. But this is exactly what they do. They get their careers off of these dead bodies. That’s why we have memes of this guy standing on cause he stands on top of tables when he grandstands. So there’s memes of him floating around where he’s standing on top of piles of corpses. And then you have a little David hog head on a vulture munching away because that’s really what they are.

Speaker 1: (42:45)
Autonomous says infinite plane society always moving forward. Well look, what we won’t do is we won’t allow this to become a limited hangout because we’ve seen so many of these things. Like they lead you in circles. They have you do a one 80 you’re about to escape and they hand you a Bible. Then you run back in and the Christian flat earth movement is just totally controlled by government operatives. No doubt about it. Does anybody here actually doubt that glow bussers works for NASA? Like serious question. Does anybody here doubt my assertion that Jaron Campanella and Bob know it all work for NASA? Anybody who’s faking ISS transits is working for them. They’re working for the company that has ISS. The ISS is sending them files. Hey, use this insert shot on this date and claim that too. The second you recorded this transit and then everybody stand by it and they do it like, look, the ISS transit, as far as I’m concerned, discredited that entire operation. Nobody can refute that.

Speaker 1: (43:49)
It’s kind of funny where they’re at right now with that. Standing on the ISS transits and when we called it out, they, they’ve pulled out two fake ones right after to try to like contradict me and their explanations don’t make any sense. In fact, I actually talked to Bob about this on bro Sanchez, his show where he was bad melting me. So I got on the line and suddenly he’s like, I really like you IPS. I think it’s an infinite plane. It’s like, wow, you hated me 30 seconds ago, which is the real Bob, the one who hates my guts or the one who really likes me, like give me a break, like we’re not dumb here. And so I said, well, what do you, what do you think about these? ISS transits and he’s like, Oh, it’s project Bluebeam while project blue beam is a hoax.

Speaker 1: (44:27)
It’s another hoax just like MK ultra. And then that brings up the of, well, how can it be a hologram and meet all these transit points where it’s going around the world every 90 minutes. That’s 17,000 miles per hour. How fast did the projector going? And if it’s a projection, how is it reflecting light? Projections don’t reflect light. Holograms don’t reflect light, so what’s more likely? And then Jared says, Oh no, it’s an unmanned aerial drone that takes pictures. Okay, tell me of any craft manned or otherwise that can go 17,000 miles per hour and not make a sound, not leave a trail. Neverland. Never refuel. There’s no such thing. So they say, well, anybody can see it. Well, anybody can see unicorns. The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim and the extraordinary claim for the ISS transit that they’re catching them at these times.

Speaker 1: (45:22)
It hasn’t been met. The burden hasn’t been met that you can refer to a handful of videos, just government agents, people that will debate with Jaron. They’re all on the same team. There are actors on both sides of the flatter debate. You’ve got Yuna rock on the glow bird side, and you’ve got Jaron on the flatter side. It’s like, you know what, you can just switch their scripts. It’d be the same thing. Glow busters is a deep fake operation. Remember they were pushing a deep fake, somebody pretending to be somebody else as the ticket to mainstream flat earth, the whole thing with the buck tooth guy to vice magazine. So yeah, we expose all these earth shaped field agents. There’s no reason to play nice and pretend like we don’t see it because they’re playing really dirty, dirty politics. I’d rather be talking about big foot making snow angels in Antarctica, but because of Bob and DIT rah and all these other nasties, we’ve got to sit here and clear the air a little bit because they devoted 90 minutes smearing me for merely talking about in a confidential email exchange. What I think that Joshua Swift should do with his YouTube channel. I said he should delete it anyway. We expose these deep fakes and they didn’t like it. And I’m like, well, deal with it. You know, you can’t tell me not to see through this deep fake when I just saw through this deep fake at this particular school shooting. I see through the Dupers delight. I see it here. Why shouldn’t I call it out?

Speaker 1: (46:51)
So anyway, my point is you can’t trust anyone who’s going to say ISS transits are real. They cannot be. It’s impossible. Okay, now the speed, the speed record is five K, but here’s the thing for something to go, the speed that they say that it’s going, it would 100% have to be in outer space. In other words, you would have to be in this hypothetical environment where there’s zero friction. It would have to be falling because the thing doesn’t have an engine. There’s no propulsion. It would have to be falling. The ISS is falling around the globe at that rate. That’s the story. And so if it’s doing that, it’s like if it’s actually making these transit points and Jaron catches it and then Red’s rhetoric catches it and then some guy from NASA catches at the same night, well then it’s orbiting like duh, instant debunk of flat earth.

Speaker 1: (47:47)
If ISS transits are real, and then you have some people around these guys who are loyal, he’ll say, Oh well no, it’s, there’s something up there, but it’s not the ISS. It’s shaped like the ISS and they invented the space station to cover it up. No, they didn’t like it’s that obvious. If it was real, I mean I saw a couple, I saw a shooting star last night that lasted, I mean I probably could’ve counted two, maybe three seconds almost. But if the ISS were real and on that trajectory it would look like a streak. A shooting star. I mean because it’s moving five miles a second. But like think about from horizon to horizon, how long would it actually take to go over your head within your range of you? If it’s going around the globe every 90 minutes it would be hauling. It would be fast and you don’t really see it like that. In fact, it has no motion blur and no light trail. Those are just a couple of things wrong with it. Along with everything else, including the inconvenient instances of microgravity. Whenever the cameras are rolling in, they’re giving a tour where he drops his keys and they slam on the floor with a metallic claim like, Oh, how come it didn’t float? Do keys not floating space. Oh is no, as is micro gravity.

Speaker 1: (49:04)
Then you go ahead and check on the discord. By the way, discord, there’s only one way in it is through the IPS underground. We’re working hard to I think consolidate our think tank and really emphasize quality and content creation over anything else, especially now with storm Antarctica and some of the other things that we’re really focusing on. So I’m, I’m closing all the invites. So if you want to get in to the discord server from now one, it’s pretty much infinite point. society.com it’s the only way. Well, continuing through my, my feet here, number of things that I just, um, I’m trying to catch up with and we, it’s been a few days now. The topic of masks, the topic of death, fakers and de fakery. These things are all interrelated. Look at this one here. So Kevin Hart, I was talking about how this thing was faked.

Speaker 1: (50:04)
Every time there’s a CYOP, there’s an agenda behind it. And so I’m like, well, what’s the agenda here? Turns out, look at this. Kevin’s car will be disassembled by CHP and laws could change new safety laws. How interesting, right. I wonder who benefits new safety laws. What does that mean? Is there some company ready with some new safety? Is there something coming along that you know, cause it’s always this, like I remember when the kid with the underwear of the shoe bomber, you had the guy with the bombs in his shoes and then he had the underwear bomber that became the excuse to put these body scanners up. So there’s always an agenda behind every single one of these.

Speaker 1: (50:46)
The conspiracy theory that Justin Beaver is playing the role of the weekend. Um, it’s getting more popular and as a result he suddenly shaved. We were saying that part of his mask is like a chin strap. It’s silicone that adds on the bottom in that they use the beard to hide the seams. And as soon as that started spreading around the few channels that talk about this, he comes out shaved. How convenient. Right? Also, here’s another interesting one. I’ve just noticed, I’m like, I’m now that I’m paying attention here, had the celebrity PSYOPs are crazy and it’s all marketing, but it’s also, you know, various forms of political influence. But she puts out this horrible song, uh, Miley Cyrus and two others who Ariana Grande de and wasn’t she in a CYOP didn’t they? Fake bomb one of her concerts and then one other. Anyway, this is horrible song. It reminds me of like these cats by the dumpster outside when they’re in heat.

Speaker 1: (51:44)
Just this caterwauling you know, just like horrible. And the, this horrible song has Miley Cyrus like beating up some guy in a ring and talk about how I don’t need you. I have my own money, I’m independent. I’m like, this is so dumb. Anyway, now she’s out in public making out with Caitlyn Jenner, you know, so she’s like, she doesn’t need men because now she’s got a woman or whatever in like, Oh, I see what they’re doing. What they’re doing is they’re selling the new song by using the celebrity drama in the street to emphasize or make it look like, to give her street cred. Kinda like how that ballerina pretended to be a thug. You know the guy who faked died, who still alive. Oh yeah. Tupac, another deep fake, a C I a deep fake named Tupac, I think his name now is, I killed the MC.

Speaker 1: (52:34)
Is that what it is? Oh, it’s killed EMC. You know, they’re so like unsubtle it Machiavelli the guy on the cross, they’re not subtled their symbolism. If you know what you’re looking at. And if you can see through one death faker, you can see through them all. We have a methodology here. We’re not shooting from the hip. We’re not random. And we’re unmasking the conspiracy. And here’s something else I think we’ve tapped into. David Eick for years has been talking about how elite reptilian shape shifters in positions of influence all around us control our reality and hold up the matrix. You’ve all heard that story? Well, now I think elite shape-shifters is just a code in a reptilian is like a code in a row. A reptilian is Royal blood. Dragons are, I’ve always been associated with the royalty. So I don’t think it that literally like reptiles from Sirius that turn into humans.

Speaker 1: (53:28)
It might just be a code for elite people playing roles for deep fakes. In other words, and you know, it’s kind of funny now that we’re on this topic cause miles Mathis put out a really good article on the El Paso shooting just the other day. His name is miles. Matt. This I highly recommend his work sound. Oh, spelled just like it sounds. M. a. T. H. I. S. okay, so let me get hit, get his updates here. He goes through the El Paso shooting and dismantles it, you know, totally pro. But he’s the one who came up with the idea that Tupac was actually Jewish.

Speaker 1: (54:15)
Let me show you because now that we’re talking about this idea of trans racial deep fakes, and my first encounter with trans racial defects was through so-called telecom X. Okay. And they said we can find the article to somebody, have a link to miles Mathis. Is it just miles? mathis.com Tupac was, I think the entire time the entire article was something else. It was like, I don’t want to get lost in this one, but I just want to get you a good picture. Lovely. The conqueror says in the show one piece, the elite are called the celestial dragons. Interesting. Okay. Found it. So he does a genealogy of Tupacs whole family. Okay. Here’s the article it’s called now, I don’t know if this is true or not. Tupac is still alive. Yeah, that’s obvious. And Jewish and and gay, which I don’t know because Jessie small it after he fake lynched himself went on stage and he actually called himself the gay Tupac. Okay. Let me see what he, when he arrived at here and then scroll right to the bottom. He does genealogy and he pretty much comes to this conclusion that we’re looking at a deep fake who falsely passed himself off as a number of things. Okay, here we go. It says, maybe he misses theater calling by becoming a rapper, but I don’t think he did. His thug persona was an act. It was the part he was chosen to play and he stayed in character. This is not speculation.

Speaker 2: (56:12)
[inaudible].

Speaker 1: (56:13)
Then there’s a comedian, Marlon Wayans who called in the Palm, all of thug and said that the guy was a method actor. Yeah. A few people have noticed, uh, Myles Mathis also suggest that you refer to gangster rap EZ bankster rap. Anyway, it’s an interesting theory. I’ll drop a link for the article. I mean, it’s 19 pages. I don’t want to go through the whole thing, but I recommend you go through all of his work. Of course, this guy doesn’t know that NASA lice, but that’s all. That’s fine. By me. I mean, look, a lot of his research is solid.

Speaker 1: (56:52)
I didn’t know this. Tupac died on a Friday the 13th. Okay. Now here’s what he says. My treatment of Tupac wouldn’t be complete whether establishing whether he was not just a Jewish actor who faked his death, but a gay Jewish actor who faked his death. Since that’s the trend we see over and over with these members of the ruling families. He says, since we’re talking about Tupacs image, we should admit, it’s just that an image, the real Tupac was a sensitive, soft-spoken, flamboyant, Shakespeare loving theater nerd whose style and mannerisms were often the feminine, the leather course. That strikes me as more than a poor decision by a stylist. Anyway, I dropped a link for the article if you want to go through it. Miles’ Mathis, highly recommend. So earlier we were talking about, Oh nice. Wade got his auto hoax or bumper stickers. See, this is a meme that I think is time has come flat.

Speaker 1: (57:54)
Earth is controlled by a bunch of operatives, bunch of NASA shills who are running it into the ground and their edge averse. They’re afraid of Antarctica, they don’t even want to talk about it. They’d rather talk about Bigfoot. Then Antarctica, well auto hoaxing under, I think auto hoaxing really does undermine everything from the ground level to deep space. Everything in the fake news, the fake science, the fake history, all of it. The fake dramas that they give us, this fake worldview, all of it is undermined by one thing and that’s taking the philosophical approach. And the methodology of auto hoaxing. It’s that simple.

Speaker 1: (58:45)
Auto hoaxer and so bumper stickers, um, we’re gonna get that on the billboard obviously. Oh, auto hoax, the MSM, um, auto hoax.com is the definitive site for the concept and we’re using that to really flesh out all the various areas. If you haven’t been to auto hooks.com, I highly recommend it. And these bumper stickers are available there as well. So is the book the auto hooks or handbook? I have a followup I’m working on. I’m actually editing now. If you’re not auto hoaxing, you’re not paying attention. That’s a fair. If you’re not an auto hoaxer then to some degree you’re an auto believer. I mean that’s pretty much it. And if you’re an audit believer, that’s fine. You know, that’s your religion, not mine. Okay, so here are the topics. Death, fakers, fake famous personas, crisis actors, mass shooting hoaxes, the auto hoax, lexicon, history hoax, Bigfoot UFOs, Kim trolls. And then I have a list of a number of auto hoaxers. I recommend infinite plane society, fake ologist, Jim Fetzer. Jeffersonian girl can be super recognizer. Now, they’re not all purists on every level. I’m just interested in the research. So these aren’t, I’m not recommending these individuals, I’m not vouching for them. I can’t tell you that Brian Staveley is not controlled by the CIA, but I can’t tell you that his research is solid when it comes to certain things and it’s worth checking out.

Speaker 1: (01:00:22)
History hoax. I guess we might even end up putting mud flood on here if there’s any validity to that. Just based on this, that the mainstream media is pretty much writing your history day by day. So the history of the last 20 years includes several hundred terror attacks and school shootings and thousands of hate crimes that didn’t actually happen like that’s in your history books. So many atrocities, so many deaths, so many laws that change shifts in culture because of things that didn’t actually happen. They simulate it. I mean, it’s magic. I’m starting to think it’s all just lesser magic. They simulate these things and then people respond as if it actually happened. I mean, isn’t that the definition of magic?

Speaker 1: (01:01:19)
Okay. So storm Antarctica is our answer to the edge of phobes in the flatter community who do not like to talk about the edge because it distracts from their cult, the enclosed earth society. And that’s what they are. They’re all enclosed. That’s what they agree on. It’s the conference earthers enclosed VIP model is maybe a better way of putting it. They put all their faith in conferences and now they think that by getting a Neo Nazi homophobe to be their mouthpiece, they’re going to somehow score some points with the public. All they’re going to do is further associate themselves with right wing extremism and uninformed blue pill political analysis. People who don’t know about crisis actors, DM says, how long is the auto hooks or handbook? Can I fit in my back pocket? Um, you know what? It’s not. It depends on how your pants are, I guess.

Speaker 1: (01:02:35)
Sorry about the audio being cut out. Okay, so here’s a link to the auto hooks or handbook. Can you fit it in your back pocket? Depends on how big your pants are. This is a much needed guide to deconstructing the fake news. Actually, it’s a guide to deconstructing the real fake news that the fake news doesn’t want us to know about. Auto hoaxing must become standard practice. This is where the truth movement must go. It’s if it’s to be more then nominally concerned with the truth. Those who still toe the line for big media and it’s Astro turf counterparts are post-truth. So the point I’m making here though is that our reality is being distorted by CGI, scripted news, fake pseudo news events, and of course corrupted science. So the message behind this book is that the concept of auto hoaxing itself needs to be mainstreamed.

Speaker 1: (01:03:36)
I’m interested in what T vs T had to say on this topic originally. The term auto hoaxer was a pejorative. See, this was one of the things, they used this to attack us. They said, Oh, you’re an auto hoaxer. You don’t believe the news. You think it’s fake. Unless they can prove it’s real. Whereas these guys, their approaches, Oh, it’s real. Unless we can prove it fake. So it was an attack on us to be an auto hoaxer was a bad thing. So we’re like, well look, they don’t want people to become auto hoaxers because it’s such a bad thing. We don’t think it is because we know that the auto hoaxer has been vindicated again and again and again. Every day I wake up, I look at the news and I’m vindicated. So we’ve appropriated that term and we use it, we own it, it’s ours, there’s no field agents to ruin it like there is with flat earth like any other topic, any other topic you get into that bet strays from the mainstream is going to be full of agents and this was a space that just doesn’t seem like there was any real effort to consolidate a network of people around this concept and methodology.

Speaker 1: (01:04:46)
You know you had a lot of disparate researchers but they don’t all unders, they don’t all have a agreements on this as being standard practice for all the meta, even the space. So what I’m working on is getting all those in the know about the stuff on the same page and that’s where auto hooks.com becomes a hub. So yeah, definitely. It was a very derisive term. They meant it to Seamus. But this is really just taking media criticism to a new level,

Speaker 1: (01:05:17)
elevating our standard to radical skepticism. Nah, I mean, if you have a problem with that, you know, if you’re too PC for that, that’s fine. Like we know how to disseminate his information without getting banned so easily and bigger channels that are more mainstream just can’t do it. Like maybe just giving him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe someone like Owen Benjamin knows that that Daisy Haug is just an actress, but he can’t say it. He probably can’t even say it on his own platform. Do you realize that? That’s how you know they’re gatekeepers? Gatekeepers do not auto hoax. They can’t probably goes against their contract. To be quite honest. It probably goes against their contract. Can’t say that. So check this out. This guy was going to the white house to be rewarded for heroism. He was the El Paso shooting victim from the Walmart and they said that he was throwing bottles at the shooter.

Speaker 1: (01:06:18)
You know, interesting story. You know, cool story bro. Again, a lot of contradictions have come out. There was no fire alarm pulled in like the first few people said anyway, this guy claimed he was dodging bullets and throwing Coke bottles at the shooter. Well, it turns out it was a big story. He made it up. The FBI said, ah, that’s not in the video and he got arrested on something unrelated before he could meet Donald Trump. Kind of interesting. Right. I’m wondering why would they do this, given that he’s a crisis actor, they can’t really actually arrest him because then he’d become a whistleblower. He would say, wait a minute, you guys told me that I’m supposed to say this stuff and now you’re arresting me for it. You see what I mean? If they can arrest a crisis actor for going off script because then he would say something to all the others. He would say, well, how am I getting arrested and these guys aren’t because none of it happened. It was a hoax. But he didn’t say that. So I think this is a very clever and shrewd story that they put into the mix. So we would have an example of allying witness being caught and done away with because if he’s really a witness and he’s really arrested and he was really there, it confirms the original story, the official story. So this is just more subtle reality reinforcement.

Speaker 1: (01:07:44)
Found a video, TMZ posts of this, which means it was filmed for TMZ because they produce news, they don’t report news and it’s got Justin Beaver in disguise somewhere else. I mean just showing you they all do it. Anybody who thinks that Snowden is legit is a shill, a gatekeeper or just clueless. There’s a lot of flatter channels. Who think that Edward Snowden is legitimate in some way? No. Um, he’s not Edward Snowden doesn’t know about auto hoaxers. In fact, let me go ahead and show you something here. So Edward Snowden doesn’t know about auto hoaxing because he’s an actor and he’s part of the game. And if they call out the hoaxes, uh, they actually undermine their entire script that they’re a part of. And so we came up with this thing here. I found a really good bit of vector art. Actually we have a couple of backpacks I want to show you. This is a Snowden auto. Just auto hooks in.

Speaker 1: (01:08:51)
It looks like I have a a phone call, but you know I’m not going to take calls right now. So go ahead, end Glenn, pause on that. I’m going to have to take off here in a minute. One more thing in case a school shooting. Remember Alice alert, lockdown, inform, counter and evacuate. So if you have any auto believing family members who think school shootings are real now you can really help out the infinite planes, society and auto hoaxing in general by purchasing one of these school shooting survival backpacks by auto hooks.com. All right, I’m going to have to get back to Evelyn later. We’re going to take calls tonight on a few topics. I just wanted to catch up. It’s been a few days. Let’s see if we have a, some callers lined up, the few new topics, few bombshells going to be dropped here, um, in the next couple of days as well. Just waiting. You know, I’m getting a lot of good leads, but some people are asking me to go ahead and wait and we’ll go over the Sandy hook thing later.

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#IPR TRANSCRIPTS: FIGHT THE FLAT EARTH DEBATES INFINITE PLANE SOCIETY

 Speaker 1: (00:01)
[inaudible] flat earth report. [inaudible]

Speaker 2: (00:52)
okay. So, Hey, really quick here. I have a few minutes until we start this a debate between myself and fight the flat earth. So, uh, before we get started, I just want to run a couple things by you. First of all, um, Rachel Maddow, give her a shout out for that little sound bite. The flat earth report soundbite. She Sue, she’s being sued for $10 million for saying that America news network is Russian propaganda.

Speaker 2: (01:21)
Just thought I’d bring that up. Okay. Takashi six nine. This whole trial is about to begin with is kidnapping. So what are they saying? Racketeering. He’s raising money for his gang. Turns out the lawyer for his kidnapper says the whole thing has been faked. He faked his own kidnapping to sell records. And so you scroll down here and it just says he’s about to drop an album. His album dummy boy was originally gonna be released in November of 2018 and he says he trolls every time he’s about to drop an album. So you gotta get your buzz up. That’s how you make money. It’s, what is, what’s the, is what the defendant’s lawyer says. So basically, uh, yeah, Takashi six, nine, he took a selfie of himself all hurt in the hospital bed and all that fake, fake, fake. So you know, he’s acting like a gang banger. Uh, for some reason here in, by acting, I mean literally it’s just an act. Uh, for some reason he’s got a flat earth map. So is Takashi six, nine a flat earth or he’s got a flat earth map on his jacket.

Speaker 2: (02:28)
I think that’s noteworthy. Go ahead and share the stream. Um, in just a few minutes here, I’m going to be joined by fight the flat earth. You may know of him. He’s a anti flat earth, uh, debater, I guess you would call him. Bit of a polemicist kind of reminds me of an angry science teacher. Um, Brad Pitt who may or may not be Gary Durden. So check this out. So Brad Pitt is doing a bunch of space propaganda cause he’s a sellout. Nothing new there, but I’m searching the term auto hoax in the news just to see what happens. You know how this term evolves because we’re the ones who pretty much, you know, leaked it, kind of forced it. We’re trying to force it into the news. So I’m searching auto hoax and I’m checking on news to see, you know, has it showed up in any meaningful sense?

Speaker 2: (03:25)
And what do you know? So this uh, paper in like that gets in Brazil says Brad Pitt deep faking as Gary board in hashtag black face and they cite my video. Now I think they call it a satire, but it’s interesting here. So we’ve got deep faking in auto hoaxing making the news finally showing up in newspaper headlines. They take it as a satire, but I dunno, Gary dirt and Tyler Durden, Brad Pitt, it’s not all that farfetched. It’s, it’s uh, not a stretch. When you look at some of the other ones that we may or may not have uncovered, you got to see the new one, which we’ll do with later when I’m not debating the flat earth round earth thing, you wouldn’t buy it. It’s either Stephen Curry’s wife is a completely real person. Ayesha Curry or it’s Hannah Montana with a Tana. It’s pretty obvious, but we’ll get into that in a minute here. It looks like Eric Dubay came out and did a, did an interview. You guys see of recent. It is, he’s wearing camouflage. It’s kinda hard to seize on the right

Speaker 3: (04:36)
conversion, right? Yeah, right. Like yoga too, you know, exercise, how yoga means union or not. So yeah, I was like, Oh, getting together into, because you’re always practicing duty duty for a while. Yeah. And social like industry,

Speaker 2: (04:51)
Eric Dubay so transcendent, you know, he can release all these videos about how the Jews are gonna take over the world and you’ve got to get back to Europe and defend the white land, make white babies. And yet he’s still up there in Thailand. Just climbing trees and meditating, breathing, I mean, very inactive. Okay. So I’m like I said, um, we’re on standby. I will be debating with fight the flat earth who believes we’re on a spinning ball, that we came from monkeys. Dinosaurs are real, asteroids are scary. Global warming is real. Get your kids vaccinated, Chuck, that fluoride and all the rest to straight blue pill all the way, and you know I’m totally fine if disagreement, who wants to just be surrounded by people they agree with? 24 seven becomes an echo chamber. That’s one of the reasons why we opened phones. It’s one of the reasons why we refused to allow any agenda to get in the way of truth. Just as community often gets in the way of truth. So really quick here, fight the fight or is coming up in a minute to Kashi. Six nine faked his own kidnapping. The kidnappers lawyer admits it was a publicity stunt and he’s wearing a flat earth map on his shirt.

Speaker 2: (06:12)
Probably these are fake tattoos. I wouldn’t be surprised like I really wouldn’t be surprised if these were faked hats. We’re looking at deep fakes. This is what a deep fake looks like. Okay, so flattered. Crypto says magical gravity, so powerful. It holds oceans, yet we can walk freely. See, those are the types of arguments that fight the fighters will take apart. Like, Oh, I don’t feel it spinning. Why would you, how many rounds per minute do you think the ball makes? Zero. It takes a whole freaking day to spin around. So of course you’re not going to feel it a thousand miles per hour. Yeah, it sounds big. Thousand. But you know, we’re talking about you being a speck on a massive ball. And so you have to also remember when you’re even debating, they have their own rules. They have their model, which is internally consistent. And so arguing from incredulity doesn’t work. Infinite Jack says, asks him about upside down buildings in one 80 a Maddie says, wait, wait, this is the MF or you’re debating. He has faced at fake face. Tats. Yeah. We’re saying they’re fake. This is fight the flat earth.

Speaker 4: (07:22)
Okay.

Speaker 2: (07:25)
No, this is Takashi six, nine. The rapper who faked his own kidnapping, let me get a picture of fight to fight earth. Well, we have his logo here on the screen. It’s basically, it’s a fist with a metal, like, like steel, um, a plate that says FTF II and he’s punching a hole through an equal distant as a muscle map. Freedom. Wait, says like your fake tattoos. Yup. I have tattoos. I was a, I was in Facebook prison for six months out of the last year. I got the tattoos to prove it. They’re kind of ghetto, but we, you know, we uh, may do with what we had.

Speaker 2: (08:12)
Okay. Right now we’re only on YouTube, so go ahead and share the stream. We’re also in discord. If you post any memes or images that you think need to be, uh, broadcast to the world, drop them in the live chat and I’ll make sure I highlight them. I do like to make an effort here to offend the offendable. Get offended. Okay, so here is so called Steven Curry’s wife. I, you HSA Curry. Tell me that’s not Hannah Montana. And look, we’ve been seeing a lot of these things. Um, okay. I think we’re just ready here. So let’s get back on.

Speaker 1: (08:58)
Okay. Tim, can you hear me?

Speaker 2: (09:00)
Yes, yes, I can hear you just fine. And I’ve got about, uh, 50 people here hanging out.

Speaker 5: (09:06)
Oh, excellent. Hello to you guys. Um, just about K story at two minutes and I’ll start the stream. On my side.

Speaker 2: (09:11)
Okay. That sounds good. And so I’m just going to send everybody I think to your channel, but um, yeah. Okay, cool. Bye. Yes. Okay,

Speaker 5: (09:18)
I’ll get, I’ll give you a chance to, um, like promote your channel and stuff. Uh, introduce yourself to my subscribers and now let me start.

Speaker 2: (09:26)
Sounds good. All right. Thanks a lot. I’ll see. Just a few moments.

Speaker 1: (09:29)
Okay.

Speaker 2: (09:32)
Okay. So it just occurred to me, um, one thing, I’m not using my headset and I’m not using my headset. Thank you. Uh, because we’re using, um, uh, his phone system and it’s using my microphone, my webcam that I don’t use. It’s like, so basically, I think the thing that’s gonna make the most sense. Okay. There’s our host is let’s just go over to his page. I don’t know if you, did you guys have audio in Facebook? I’m really sorry on YouTube. I know you don’t in discord, did you have audio from fight the flat earth? Cause if you did on YouTube, you’re good to go. You don’t have to move. I’m gonna go ahead and kill a discords audio though. Okay. You did. Okay, great. Those of you on discord go to one of the YouTube live streams. Either fight the flat earth or go to mind. It’s all good. Um, I’ll put a link. I mean, you may or may not want to subscribe to him. It may or may not be your cup of tea. I mean, you know how I feel about this.

Speaker 5: (10:40)
Okay. I’m just getting going on my end. I’ll take my intro and then introduce you.

Speaker 2: (10:44)
Excellent. Okay. Good to go. Excellent. Good to go.

Speaker 1: (10:53)
[inaudible]

Speaker 2: (11:06)
on the desk floating through space.

Speaker 1: (11:09)
[inaudible] [inaudible]

Speaker 5: (11:29)
Hey, I’m FDFP welcome back to the channel that tasty pity to the train tracks of knowledge Monday night. So it’s Monday night, the debate time. And tonight I am joined by Tim Austin or the infinite plane society. So let’s just start and Tim, welcome to the channel. Would you like to introduce yourself and tell people what you’re about and why you think Europe is the shape that you think is,

Speaker 2: (11:50)
yeah. Thanks a lot for having me. Uh, my channel infinite plane. It’s a meant to draw distinction between the flat earth society, which I think have come to too many conclusions without enough evidence. And so to me it’s more like infinite possibilities. It’s flat until proven otherwise. I don’t a certain ice wall, I reject the notion of a dome and any biblical explanation, which is worse than pseudoscience. It’s mysticism. So most of the so called flat earth community does not like what we do because we do not accept the biblical authority. And so, uh, my take on it is this, um, I arrive at not a conclusion but at the negation of the conclusion that we’re on a ball because I don’t trust those same authorities that the people who believe we are trust, I think there’s plenty of reason to think we’ve been deep faked about science. And so for me, I’m going to need more evidence and I don’t accept what I’ve been shown thus far.

Speaker 5: (12:45)
Okay. Thank you. So you’re, your main reason for not accepting the, the main narrative is mistrust then, right?

Speaker 2: (12:53)
Yes, largely mistrust.

Speaker 5: (12:57)
Um, what about the, the fundamental forces of physics that, that we can understand and measure? Do you disagree with how they work? Like things like gravity and use centrifugal acceleration.

Speaker 2: (13:09)
I don’t disagree with these things. I don’t deny that they exist. I’m just saying that the explanations were given are probably skewed. So I’m not in denial of any of the things that you observe for I observe and moreover, I don’t augment my reality with anything I can’t observe. So for example, some people will say they can see the curve when they look at the horizon and I would say, well that’s impossible. That’s somebody imposing what they’re expected to believe.

Speaker 5: (13:37)
Okay. Um, so what kinds of evidence would you accept to acknowledge that the world is, as we’ve been told,

Speaker 2: (13:47)
I would acknowledge it. It is as we’ve been told, if I were shown irrefutable evidence, one a curvature as in, um, curvature from high enough altitude brought to us by footage that’s not presented to us from NASA or any of the existing space agencies. It’s got to come from somebody that I consider to be impartial. Uh, barring that, I would like to see maybe contiguous ISS transits on the same night across multiple locations. That would be irrefutable, that would prove orbit. But, uh, right now I do not find the evidence compelling or satisfying and the lack of footage of a globe in space rotating is also troublesome. And then we’re shown things like star man by space X and I see that as just an insult to our intelligence. That can’t be real.

Speaker 5: (14:34)
Okay, well let’s talk about star man and um, combat. That’s quite an interesting topic. You know, a car in space. Well, um, it’s cool. Where do you believe it or not? But, um, why don’t you think that’s possible?

Speaker 2: (14:47)
It’s not that I don’t think it’s, um, impossible. I think that what we’ve been shown is clearly staged and there were a couple tells in the presentation, so it just looks to me like we were meant to accept it as real because maybe people haven’t always been this critical with what they’re shown from outer space. And also when I look at the thing it, there were a few things that bother me. One. There are these little bits of what appear to be bubbles accelerating vertically in front of him the whole time I’m told it spaced us. I have a problem with that. And then too, I have a problem with just how perfectly stable and level it is. There’s no wobble and we don’t see anything of the earth other than just blue. It’s like planet water.

Speaker 5: (15:30)
Uh, okay. Well in regards to the wobble, you mean like from the camera’s point of view, you don’t see the car like shaking and stuff?

Speaker 2: (15:38)
I think it’s just way too smooth, too perfect. Maybe a little too curated to be real. I think it should be flip in. There should be some rotation, something.

Speaker 5: (15:47)
Well with the cameras that you, they were bolted on to the car with a frame. So you’re in, in relation to the car, the camera is always going to have a steady view,

Speaker 4: (16:00)
um,

Speaker 5: (16:03)
uh, in, in regards to the planet being just water. I mean that’s probably just cause that was what it was over at this thing. Um, do you deny that the, uh, the physics that are possible for us to put that up there at all?

Speaker 2: (16:19)
Okay. I’ll say this. I’ll say that the whole system is internally consistent and if it’s all real, if the ball is what they say, if Helio centrism is what they say, then yeah, that would be hypothetically possible. But right now I consider low earth orbit. To just be hypothetical. I don’t believe that there’s anything in low earth orbit and I don’t think that there’s any technology we’re using right now that requires orbiting, uh, infrastructure up there, dangling shore high altitude. Sure. But orbiting, no.

Speaker 5: (16:50)
Okay. Um, I suppose it all comes down to, uh, talking about the library in a discussion like this. Um, one thing I always want me to ask you is who do you think is in on the truth? If the truth is that the earth is flat, who are the people that actually knew this?

Speaker 2: (17:09)
That’s a very good question. It’s an excellent, it’s a, it’s an excellent question because it’s the whole thing about flat earth. The problem is it does presuppose a conspiracy. This couldn’t be an accident. It could not be an omission. It’s not that nobody noticed. If it is flat, then this is a deliberate, multisensory deception, which is a pretty huge claim. And I understand that. So if it is the case that people in the know would be a people high up in government and military on a need to know basis, um, and it would also be a pretty much a military secret. And it could also be, I mean, if you think about it, it might also be the, the, um, secret itself could be something handed down through the secret societies. I don’t know if you believe in that stuff, but I’m just saying, you know, the military, you have security clearance as a higher up you go, that’s a sin. That’s a secret society in effect. And so I’m saying yes, secret societies have always been around. And so yeah, this whole theory does presuppose something, I can’t say who I wouldn’t point out a certain group or tribe or I think that’s all red herring, but I think we’re in a assistant that has an elite technocratic class that employees this, they distort our history to keep us more or less enslaved. And I think they distort our cartography the same way in our Cosmo graphy.

Speaker 5: (18:30)
So, um, how far do you think the conspiracy would have to go? Um, like how many people would have to notice you say like, uh, hire people we need to know basis in government, but um, what about, uh, pilots and air traffic controllers that work with technology? The, you know, we say relies on blue physics or are they in on the conspiracy as well? Or do they to the pilots just fly assuming they’re flying on a ball or, you know, uh, are they lying to everybody as well?

Speaker 2: (19:04)
Right. I know what you mean. I hear this argument a lot. Like nine 11 couldn’t be a conspiracy. Apollo 11 couldn’t be because too many people would know you got 400,000 contractors with the moon landing. And so I think if you break it down as far as compartmentalizing it, um, the people who actually interface with the ball itself, like pilots don’t even think about curve. I mean we’re too small to even think about it. It’s out of sight, out of mind. I don’t think it would require that many people and there could easily be false explanations for what’s in Antarctica. Why we don’t go over there. I wouldn’t assume a silly ice wall, but I don’t necessarily assume it’s um, what we’ve been told.

Speaker 5: (19:41)
Okay. Um, so about Antarctica, you say it’s not a nice wall. Uh, do you think we’ve been to Antarctica? Do you think what, um, you know, you have the, the photo up South pole that has to be kind of moved every now and then to say in alignment and everything. Is that a real thing or is there no such thing as this as an Antarctica tool?

Speaker 2: (20:06)
That’s a good question. It could be one of two things, in my opinion. Um, it could be perfectly reasonable to think that there is a continent, the shape and look vent Arctica where they say, I’m just suggesting that if it’s flat, then that’s just one part of a perimeter. There could be land all around. And so we’re given the miss apprehension that that continent is at the bottom of a ball. I’m saying here that the whole idea of giving us a false model of a 25,000 miles or conference ball is to hide land and hide resources. That’s what I think the bottom line is. I don’t think there’s a religious thing. I don’t think it’s God or Satan. I think it’s simply a resources and land and a technocratic elite, uh, keeping us in a state of, uh, relative disempowerment.

Speaker 5: (20:50)
So, um, what happens if people want to go to Antarctica? Uh, w what would happen? For instance, if somebody was in a boat on their own and just headed out towards an entire school, would they be stopped by some kind of elite military force?

Speaker 2: (21:06)
No, I think that’s ludicrous. It’d be impossible to manage such a thing. And the idea, I mean I hear this from, I often ask flat earthers and they get really mad at this. I say, where is the edge? And they act like it’s a provocation and they’ll say, Oh, you can’t go, you’ll get shot. And I think that’s just a way to avoid the topic. And you know, I think that, um, if you want it to go, yeah, you could book a trip and you could go, I just don’t know how curated it is. And I’m saying something like this, of this magnitude to be uncovered would require a great deal of public interest. That’s the reason why we got behind the research. Flat earth billboard. We didn’t say it is flat. Believe us. We said research it, thinking if this piques the interest of enough people, somebody somewhere might know something that could make this go somewhere and reveal it one way or the other. But all we get from NASA, all we get from the other side is ridicule and a little bit of mockery. They never really show us anything that I think is satisfying.

Speaker 5: (22:01)
Okay. So, um, keep on talking about Antarctica. Walk out the, the recent people that are the Antarctica, um, even, and I have photos and video of them doing it is that will fake it as well.

Speaker 2: (22:13)
I hate to say it, but you know, we’re in the age of deep, deep fakes. We all know about deep fakes and I think we are deep faked on Apollo 11 and, and be just as easy to deep fake us about Antarctica. They could take pictures and say, look at me, I’m on the rings of Saturn and what are you going to do? Believe them or not. It’s like, it depends on how much you trust them. And so I just think we cannot trust photos anymore, especially if their entire objective is holding up a deception. So I had to rule out photos as evidence in itself. Same with video.

Speaker 5: (22:41)
Okay. Um, so, uh, the, do you know of the, uh, one more orbit team that did the potable flight recently?

Speaker 2: (22:50)
Yeah, I actually called and I, I’m actually trying to get an interview with Colonel vert about that and I watched that the one more orbit they did on the 50th anniversary of the Apollo. And this sounds bad because I was hoping they would just get on a plane and make a big loop, but it looked like they were in like on a stage and you didn’t even see out the window. You saw vert sitting there joking. And then he’d have his camera and take a picture out the window. I didn’t get the impression these guys were even in air. I’m sorry. But that thing looked fake and it’s just so lazy if be fake, something like that.

Speaker 5: (23:21)
All right. So again, it comes down to they’re, they’re lying close and it’s all being orchestrated. All right. So I suppose the question though I have to ask is, is there any evidence for this, that actual hard evidence that the anyone can actually go in and find to show that what you’re saying might be a reality? Cause you know, I’ve spoken to a lot fly earthers and no one has ever actually shown me any positive evidence. There’s always lot of, um, well I don’t think this could be true or, uh, I think that like taught me because of this. But is there actually any physical evidence of the earth being a plane?

Speaker 2: (24:01)
Right, right. That’s a good question. Um, is there, because you’re right, you know, when you’re talking about extraordinary claims, whoever’s making the claim owns that burden of proof and a lot of flat earthers are like, I’ll put it on them because the globe is so extraordinary. But I’m saying, no, after this long, it’s so entrenched, it’s really up to us. And so the best I can do, uh, what I find compelling personally is I look at the ISS blooper reel that I find very compelling. That’s one too. If you look at the European space agencies footage of the earth from space, they have a shadow under the ISS that shouldn’t be there. That’s hilarious. And it’s a mistake and they do it on multiple takes. So I would say look at the ISS footage. Hyper critically, if you want to think, if you want to find out if there’s anything to what I’m saying here.

Speaker 5: (24:47)
So, um, again, that comes down to the difference between kind of folks and posted evidence. What you’ve just given me is uh, more, well the ISS is possibly fake, therefore the or it could be flat rather than an actual bit of evidence for the earth being flat. Uh, I understand that you, the, you don’t believe that NASA is telling the truth. Uh, I’m probably older face agencies. Um, so let’s just take guys, given the dots, do the, your diet is your stance. So knowing that, do you actually have any positive evidence for the earth being flat?

Speaker 2: (25:21)
I have one for ya. Um, I was out, I was in the military for a few years after high school and I was with air defense artillery and there was one day where we were out at white sands, New Mexico and they were using these radars as for the Patriot missile system and they were painting targets a a hundred miles away. And I remember thinking nothing of the distance and we’re talking about targets on the ground. Can’t talk about this. It’s actually, this is even what I told, you know, I don’t have the security clearance to know it. I overheard it cause I was attached to a unit as an NBC guy. And so I didn’t even think about this little conversation I overheard until I heard somebody talking about rail guns. And I’m like, I can’t find any videos of rail guns shooting a hundred miles on a level trajectory. But popular mechanics says they can do it.

Speaker 2: (26:05)
But I do specifically recall people in ADA air defense, artillery talking about painting targets a hundred miles across a flat level ground and nowhere are they talking about a parabolic arc. So when I hear this, I’m thinking, well this is why the public doesn’t know. You asked earlier how many people would know tens of thousands of people. No, it’s flat because they’ve experienced it, but they don’t know that they know it. And I’m saying anybody who’s ever done air defense artillery, who’s worked at those distances in these bases know that they’re not dealing with a ball, at least not one with appreciable curve at a a hundred miles. So that’s one thing I could say that would point to evidence. But the problem, like I said, the people who have the evidence are probably sworn to secrecy.

Speaker 5: (26:47)
Right? Okay. So there really isn’t any hard kind of circumstantial empirical evidence that you could point me to the, you know, anyone could go, could go and find. Um,

Speaker 2: (27:02)
so okay, there is, there is, here’s one. Like the thing is everything that we point to as odd as obvious proof that we’re on a flat stationary plane and that the lights above us are local and move. Anything we can point to already has a counter explanation. So people will say, well, you see different constellations in the Northern and Southern hemispheres because we’re on a ball and it’s being obscured by the curve and I’m saying, or we’re on a flat plane and the stars are close and local. So, um, a lot of this is built upon assumptions. And so, um, even, uh, air Stoss cities that experiment about measuring the shadows and the angles of the shadows when the sun on the same day, 500 miles apart was based on what [inaudible] assuming a ball measuring a ball. But what if you took the same measurements and you didn’t assume it was a ball?

Speaker 5: (27:49)
Well, they kind of already knew that it was bull. Uh, and it was just using the angles that then gave them the circumference. So as soon as yes, to do that experiment with the two points, you would have to assume that it was the bull. But there’s a lot more in the con now show us. Yeah, we’re 2,500 years later in there. It’s all sneeze and we’ve got the technology now too to actually measure these things. And I know you’re not going to accept all this stuff from, from space, but um, it, photography on the ground can, can show the, we are on a curve. When you look at things like Mount Rainier in the distance being smaller than the mountains in front of it where it’s actually bigger, you know, showing that we are on on a curve. Um, you know, I, I’ve never, you know, I can, I could point to a thousand pictures, the aren’t from the space that show that we have a curve that is visible and there is an effect to the curb. But I never ever seen anything from any Voxer for the is positive evidence of this. Here is a picture of the flyer F

Speaker 2: (28:57)
well the one thing we have going for us luckily is a, the science channel is back in mad my Hughes homemade astronauts and they’ve got a raccoon built and this is a flatter there who is going to the Karman line using a combination of a balloon and a rocket and he’s going to get high enough whether he reaches 60 miles or even half that the footage he gets is going to have to be taken seriously by everybody on both sides. If they’re going to be honest and flat. Earthers won’t be able to deny it if it shows a big fat curve.

Speaker 5: (29:28)
[inaudible] I mean prop smart make use, I’m the guy who’s built his own rocket out of the boiler. So a guy named [inaudible] a lot ever. But you know that’s, that’s pretty cool. And the fact that he is going to try actually gets medicines, which is great. So if that came up and he showed that there was a big curve, would that change your mind would adopt be enough to convince you there a physical Oop.

Speaker 2: (29:52)
Oh absolutely. Although what it wouldn’t do is it wouldn’t immediately cause me to think, okay I was 100% wrong on everything I called out on the ISS because then I would still have to ask myself then why is the space station faking stuff? Cause they still are faking footage, which would really lead me to think that well maybe the earth is a ball but they’re hiding land or they’re hiding the fact that Antarctica is a lush paradise. Like there’s something they’re hiding if they’re deceiving us all the time with these productions are given us from the space companies. And I do have a conspiracy theory about this. I do actually think that the space program is really nothing more than a way for all the nations of the world to get everybody to March lockstep with radical environmentalism. And I think that’s the case. You went look at all the right wingers who voted for Trump thinking he’s a small government nationalist and he brings him space force. So I think the space program’s just a ruse anyway. Well

Speaker 5: (30:49)
see the big problem with that is that you have to assume that all the governments are colluding together and you know that that’s just something that I don’t see it as possible. Um, you know, D do you think the countries that are typically hostile, USA and China to have a friendly relationship, are they actually in secret talks with each other and you know, secretly ruling the world from some kind of shady organization?

Speaker 2: (31:14)
That’s what I’m saying. That might sound controversial to you. I think that the nations of the world are actually in a massive conspiracy against the populations. Whoever runs these places owns these places. I don’t think that Russia and America were ever in a space race. I think it’s always been a ruse to get the capitalists to fall into this idea of this new utopian communist workers’ paradise, which is all being couched in this Jetson’s like window dressing. AK. The space program. So yeah, it worked. Look how many capitalists are willing to give up their luxury, their wealth, their meat to go farm potatoes on Mars. This has been a communist plot from day one. That’s my theory. And so yeah, I do think that any nation that has part of the space program that adopts it like Iran, now they have their own space program. Anybody who does that, I think they fall in lock step with this universal deception. Okay.

Speaker 5: (32:04)
So the, you know, the recent norms from India, um, that that was all part of the hooks as well. So, and anything that has to do with space is all part of the hope.

Speaker 2: (32:14)
Yes. I, I believe the outer space, uh, as it’s been described to us is really just a utopian vision. It’s the new version of heaven that, you know, Rome used to have people on this idea of heaven that we’re trying to get to. Everyone’s competing over who has the right version. Well, outer space is the new universal heaven for the one world order religion, which is the space program. That’s my contention here. And they’re all working together. And when you look at an obelisk, you may, I mean a rocket, you’re looking at an obelisk in my view, you’re looking at Rome, you’re looking at really the universal religion and a new heaven that the atheist found palatable. I mean, you’re probably an atheist and you fear God more than the God fearing people cause you believe we’re in the end times. If you believe in global warming and imminent asteroid strike.

Speaker 5: (32:59)
Hmm. Well, um, yes, I’m an atheist. Uh, although I will say I will never be able to disprove God. I don’t, I don’t think anyone could ever disprove that there is a God. Um, but I also don’t think that the acceptance or, um, knowledge of there being a God takes away the physical laws that we know and see every day. Uh, you say outer space isn’t real. So, um, I would have to ask you why is there a pressure gradient? And the reason I asked that question is because we know that there’s a pressure gradient then surely that would mean the depression gradient would go all the way to zero, which would be outer space,

Speaker 2: (33:43)
right? Yeah. Actually I know what you mean. Outer space like they used to call it thin air and yeah, of course as a pressure gradient you go up higher and higher it’s going to be thinner and yeah, that’s technically called outer space. I just think that what we’ve been sold is outer space. What’s been packaged for us with generations of science fiction and pseudoscience and mysticism pretending to be science and cosmology, cosmology. I think a lot of this stuff is just fiction. So our construct of space is a fiction. What is up there? I don’t know. I don’t think it goes out for the trillions light years. I don’t believe in exoplanets. I don’t believe in uh, black holes or any of this stuff. I don’t really think that beyond our range of vision, there is this magical paradise full of unlimited resources. I don’t think that mankind’s future is up there. And outer space I think is really, like I said, it’s a false vision. I think it’s a utopian thing. I think it’s heaven.

Speaker 5: (34:37)
It’s fake. Okay. So, um, do you, do you prescribe to the, we’re in an enclosed system thing or uh, are you accepting of the fact that there could be a point where there’s zero atmosphere but it’s just not what we’ve been told?

Speaker 2: (34:55)
I am accepting of it. And if it is the case, then what is up? Whatever’s up there. Um, now it doesn’t necessarily mean that there’d be orbit. That’s what I don’t know yet. And as far as there being an enclosure, I think it’s premature to say anybody who says there’s a dome, I’m like, where the hell they getting that from? Cause if you’re going to say there’s a dome like Mark Sargent for example, you’re taking your concept from the Bible. And that concept also includes a footstool that the dome sits on. So I can’t, I can’t say, you know, there’s an enclosure and if there is saying it’s a dome also presupposes that it arcs down and there’s an edge somewhere. And I can’t even assume that. So no, that’s

Speaker 5: (35:33)
what I was going to say is if there is a doom, how come there’s been any reports of anyone you getting to the point where they do music around? Um, exactly.

Speaker 2: (35:44)
Exactly. And, and I, I call them edge phobes. Uh, ask any flat earth or who says there’s a dome, show me the dome. Where’s the dome? Show me the spot where all the spent space X rockets are piled up at the edge and none of them want to go there. They’re not even interested in the topic because they see it as you challenging their biblical faith. So no, I think the dome was put there for religious people to co-opt this, um, a new level of skepticism against what could be a whole lot of pseudoscience. The Bible has nothing to do with flat earth.

Speaker 5: (36:16)
Okay. So what happens when NASA or space X or anyone, they don’t, you rock it up and you see it going into space. And I could show you videos from edge bachelorettes where um, you can see the gas escaping out of the bank, gained to the point that he shows you the rocket is in a vacuum. What they’re doing with those rockets.

Speaker 2: (36:37)
Okay. How have the, yeah, this is my problem with this. Okay. So recently there was a so used supply rocket went up to go deliver some, you know, monkey costumes, guitars and a pizza, whatever, to the space station. And uh, one of the guys on the space station did a time lapse of that rocket front, the soleus rocket going from earth to space. And you could see it on a TimeLapse. It goes from the ground and you could see a little explosion as it goes into space. And it looks like it’s something out of a video game. And I’m kind of face palming here because there was no gravity tilt. It went perpendicular from earth to the space. When we know that these rockets arc and then they fall into orbit. It didn’t do that on the time lapse. So I’m just saying I don’t trust any of this footage they give us cause I think it’s all done in a production studio.

Speaker 5: (37:25)
Okay. So it’s all done in a production studio. What about when for instance, the ISS does a, you know, a two hour long live stream or people on board floating showing you around the compartments? We have equipment floating, liquid floating. How do they do that in real time?

Speaker 2: (37:44)
I’ve seen that and I think what they do with the space station is movie magic. I think what got us to the moon is movie magic. It could easily be harnesses but these days it could be almost anything. Uh, it can also be parabolic flights for short bursts. I think they’ve done that before. I noticed they don’t have a long, a lot of long haired women up there anymore cause people noticed all the hairspray. Uh, so when it comes to the ISS I think thinks eminently debunk bubble and it does in different ways. I think it’s foolish and I think they’re embarrassed by it and they want to bring it down so they can replace it with something with better special effects.

Speaker 5: (38:17)
Uh, C, um, I honestly don’t see how they could do a live feed for that long with people, you know, floating and equipment and floating and everything. Um, say it was just 30 seconds, whatever it could be on hardball, that flight. But when you have life feed where they’re interacting with, with people that are watching the live feed and it’s going on for a long, long, long time, shows that they have to be in some kind of microgravity environment.

Speaker 2: (38:48)
Well, one of the things I look at is, and in fact this is kind of funny, I was noticing that many of the times they look like they’re dangling like characters in that movie inception. Like they’ve got harnesses on their back. And I’ve always noticed that with Scott Kelly that there’s a thickness around his neck. He almost looked like he was hanging upside down from like, uh, among, uh, what do you call it? Monkey bars. You know, like it’s like why does he look so livid? Anyway, the next day I got this article on space news where they were talking about how astronauts on the ISS have a lot of blood in their heads cause they’re floating around and it’s almost like they were doing damage control cause we’re calling it out that these people are dangling like spiders against a green screen background. That’s what I’m saying.

Speaker 2: (39:26)
It doesn’t look like they’re actually in outer space. To me, I don’t find the footage compelling whatsoever. Um, I don’t think that it’s, uh, even likely that you can find a tour that they don’t have it chopped up into short little bursts. They did the longest hail Mary pass ever during the Superbowl before last. So they threw a football that went from one end to the other. There were four splices in there. Why do they have to splice it? If they had showed me a football going the whole distance, I would have said, okay, well that would be hard to fake.

Speaker 5: (39:56)
Hmm. Okay. So, um, can you see the screen?

Speaker 2: (40:01)
Uh, yes. That would be a, is it Tim peak?

Speaker 5: (40:03)
Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think is happening here? Do you think this is, um, he’s doing this for some kinds of cinnamon talk to reason? Cause I, I’ve had this brought up it with a goal or flat earthers well watching what’s going on in this shot here.

Speaker 2: (40:17)
I’m familiar with this shot. And people will say, they’ll look at that and they’ll say that some type of, um, blue screen that they’re using. And uh, that’s not what that is. Um, what he’s doing here though is yeah, he’s simulating space and he’s doing some type of experiments with objects and simulated space. Um, I don’t believe he’s in this outer space, zero G environment. And when I look at the way that they move on the ISS, it looks nothing like the way people move in parabolic flights. They, they’re super stiff. I mean, have you ever looked at some of the somersaults these guys do when they don’t get tangled up in their own harnesses?

Speaker 5: (40:50)
Yeah. Um, and Powerball flights, Stabler things, but when you’re on the ISS, it’s a constant rate of, um, of, of acceleration towards the ground because, you know, that’s one the way it is. They are constantly accelerating during freefall. They’re always aerating towards the ground, but they are missing the ground and you’re missing the earth and constantly going around, which is why they’re always in freefall. Um, uh, so yeah, that’s a lot smoother than when you’re on a parabolic flight and you’re being chucked around. Uh, I’m glad that you, uh, agreed that this isn’t some kind of criminal key screen because I’m certainly, if I refers, try and say that this is a criminal case to, and I use green screen all the time and there’s absolutely no way that you’d be able to use that as any kind of green screen. Craig, the to remove what’s happening is the, the white squares would make it a lot harder than, than would need to be.

Speaker 2: (41:46)
Yeah. That’s a bit of cognitive bias. There are a lot of times people they’ll reach for things and just try to grab as many things as they possibly can. Grab all of 200 proofs from Robotham and I don’t think that’s the right approach. So now with regards to the ISS or the ISS transits are the, one of the things that really got me to question this thing, because I do a lot of our, used to do a lot of video editing. I do a lot of photo work and I was, I’ve been watching Jerilyn’s ISS transits and when I saw it I thought, wait a minute, this has gotta be a joke. That is, I thought he was pulling a joke on the flatter. If there’s everybody like there’s no way you could have that much detail on an object 272 miles away moving at 17 K now I know it’s relative on the speed, but there was zero motion blur way too much detail. And so I actually looked at this closely and I really have a hard time believing that any of the ISS transits are real.

Speaker 5: (42:43)
Even ones like from red rhetoric. And a short me life. Um, I’m sure, I’m sure you’ve seen those [inaudible] things and um, showing me a very, very happy to use their transits. All the ISS can calculate its distance and speed and just using the pictures that they took, uh, you know, and looking at the distance they were a part of, they actually, they managed to get the correct speed and that was, you’d all be ISS. And when things match up to what we’re being told is it just backs up the, um, you things are, as we’ve been told.

Speaker 2: (43:20)
Right, exactly. So what it looked like to me is, and I hate to say it, you know, but it looks like these guys in Jared, and this is just my opinion. And again, you know, I have a certain conspiratorial bias about this thing being a deliberate deception. They look like low level agents perpetrating a deception by all faking the ISS transits to maintain the illusion of low earth orbit. And coming from Jaron as an authority. Now all of Jerilyn’s followers believe that there’s an object up there. They just don’t want to admit it’s ISS. And I’m saying, Hey you guys, you don’t have any proof. There’s an object up there other than an insert shot that looks phony. And the fact that it looks just as phony as reds and the other guys tells me they’re all in on it, they’re all pretty much, I think a conspiracy against reality.

Speaker 5: (44:05)
Have you ever tried to film it yourself?

Speaker 2: (44:08)
I have and I have through a couple of people. My discord server, and one of the issues I have is this. A friend of mine was pointing out, there’s a news article, I think it was in New York, and they said the ISS is going to be visible for 647 seconds. So you’re looking at this things up there from one in 10 minutes and I’m like, wait, there’s no way you should see it for 10 minutes if it’s going five miles a second, unless you’re seeing it from what, 1500 miles, one way, 1500 the other way. And there’s no way that we can see 3000 miles of sky at the 300 mile altitude Mark. So it took too long to pass over. This was a 10 minute ISS transit look it up. There’s no reason why you would see a light for 10 minutes, not the speed that it’s going, not if it anticipates going around the world in 90 minutes.

Speaker 5: (44:55)
Well, when you can think about eating the angle or what you’re viewing and deciding how much of that the ISS would be positive, I didn’t think that would be a stretch to think of that. That’s how it should be. Um, so

Speaker 1: (45:11)
[inaudible]

Speaker 5: (45:12)
Jaron, like you said, has managed to get transit, um, at you, are you saying that he’s part of the conspiracy to lie about things?

Speaker 2: (45:22)
Not just Jaron, but Jaron and globe busters? Deep inside the rabbit hole, that entire clique, uh, even, uh, Nathan Thompson, I hate to say it, all these guys stand by it. They swear by it and they say it’s real. And I’m saying that’s just an insert shot. You see Jaron put his phone up and then he says, okay, three, two, one. He times it and then bam is an insert shot. And it’s like, you don’t know what he did. That’s just like when NASA cuts from the rocket disappearing from your line of sight, you can’t see it anymore. And then they cut to space. Well in between that cut, that’s where the deception is. And so yeah, I had to walk away from this saying, Hey, all these big community, um, leaders and thought leaders in the flatters community are actually secretly working for the other side.

Speaker 5: (46:10)
Okay. So, um, who are the actual flight rivers?

Speaker 2: (46:18)
Well, given that the flat earth society is obviously controlled a controlled narrative, very biblical, they believe in a dome and yet they still believe in outer space. They believe in climate change, which is also a huge contradiction. A Mark Sargent believes in climate change. Huge contradiction because the same people who are telling you about climate change are the ones reporting everyday. Hey, you’re on the ball today. So that’s a huge contradiction. But um, as far as the only legitimate ones are the people who are looking into it for themselves, who don’t have an agenda of religious agenda or an agenda somehow to reinforce the idea of low earth orbit and that we’re on a ball. And that’s what it looks like. Glow bussers and Jared are actually doing under the disguise. It’s called controlled opposition. Lennon talked about this. It’s an old thing.

Speaker 5: (47:07)
Okay. So the, the main flat earthers within the current movement are controlled opposition. Um, well, help me. Um, why do you think I do what I do?

Speaker 2: (47:18)
I think you do what you do because you legitimately trust what you’ve been told and you think it’s real and you see what we’re doing as an a front if not possibly dangerous. I’ve seen the, I’m not sure if you think this and I wanted to you, do you think that people have the right to be this wrong or do you think it’s a danger to society? Like do you think society needs to intervene at some point when people or what you think to be wrong?

Speaker 5: (47:40)
[inaudible] there’s, there’s being wrong and then there is being so wrong that you have to think that everyone is lying to you. I might be a problem with fly earth is the, um, to believe that the earth is flat. Like you said, everybody has to be lying to you or at least being lied to. So to have to, for a child to come across that kind of influence, I think that will skew their mind for the rest of their life because if they think that everyone’s lying to them, then they’re never going to trust anyone. And it can confuse and ruin a young mind. And when it’s going against what education says and when it’s going against what you can even find out for yourself, I do think that it comes to the point where it can be dangerous to, um, the vulnerable and the less intelligent members of society that would not know any better.

Speaker 2: (48:40)
I’m, I’m with you on that. Like, okay. I don’t think it’s right to try to teach kids. Like Eric Dubay has a book out right now, right? Where he’s teaching kids about flat earth and like, this is the wrong guy to do it. Uh, for a number of reasons. Not just his ethnic fascism and all that stuff, but that that guy puts out a book for children thinking, I guess what to try to get them to start questioning it now. And they don’t have enough information. Like this is something for adults. But at the same, by the same token, I don’t think that students or kids in schools should be taught that global warming is a fact. I don’t think that they should be terrorized with these school shooter drills. I think school shooter drills are a form of terrorism by the state against the kids.

Speaker 2: (49:21)
And I think it’s based on these school shootings, which I’m not gonna get into it into your channel. And this is a very, very sensitive topic. But I’m just saying I don’t trust the media and I don’t trust the space media. I don’t trust the news down on the ground or above. And I think brainwashing is fundamentally wrong. So yeah, I’m with you on that. Brainwashing the information is dangerous and I’m saying here is that you like a lot of information can be dangerous and radicalizing for people. And I think that the radicals who believe in global warming are way more dangerous than the flat earthers who say that the earth is flat.

Speaker 5: (49:52)
Okay. Right. So, um, I think I’d like to talk to you about some of the reasons why I think that the earth is round eye and see what you think about. And one of the main things is that I know that we are spending, I know that Europe is rotating. Um, it’s very easy to figure out that the Europe is very tasting cause there’s so many things that happened because the earth is rotating that Coriolis force, he help us force, um, you know, the pendulum effects, all these things quite clearly show that the physics of us being on a rotating object. Um, so how do you respond to things or also, you know, Bob did the, the, the fiber optic diary thing. Um, but I know did [inaudible] position, but regardless of that, fiber optic gyros do show what Bob said. They do show that positive 15 degree per hour drift. So why do all these things where account to show that the earth is rotating? It is not

Speaker 2: (50:51)
right. Well, the only explanation for that would be that they’re measuring something other than movement of the earth, which would imply that there is a 15 degree movement in something which could be what? Um, I think they would call it the ether. I don’t know specifically. So my answer is I don’t know. I need to invest it. I would need to, um, because look, the only explanation is one Bob gave ether, which isn’t even included, you know, in our modern scientific paradigm. So what are you gonna what are you gonna do? Are you going to trust the Oracle in the box? And so I look at this gyro thing is I don’t think we should make an argument from laser gyro. I think we should just wait until one of these space agencies can just take a picture of the earth from their iPhone and show it spinning instead of all these CGI rendered. Obvious phoneys Whoa.

Speaker 5: (51:40)
The, the thing is about that is the, it’s being at 15 degrees per hour, which you know, you’re not going [inaudible] to see from just taking a little picture. I mean, you can see the, the, this theater, if I’ve got 50 behind me, right. You know, the earth is spinning so much slower than I think I set out to like 400 times, maybe 4,000 times faster than actually spinning.

Speaker 2: (52:04)
Um,

Speaker 5: (52:05)
so for you to say you want to just see a video of your sitting, you’d have to watch 24 hours to see your routine. Just once. Okay. Yeah, that’s a fair point. That’s a fair point because it would be so slow, which is why we have things like the vibrancy gyro and this agnostic effect. Do you understand how the driver measures what it does?

Speaker 2: (52:30)
Oh, why don’t you explain it and clarify for me.

Speaker 5: (52:33)
Okay. Alright. Let me just get a video up. Um, there’s a very good explanation totally for it.

Speaker 2: (52:40)
And, and look, and what I would expect to see a really quick here. Um, why couldn’t they could just time-lapse a 24 hour spinning, um, ball and the cloud should reflect a 24 hour change. But anyway, go ahead and explain the gyro.

Speaker 5: (52:54)
Okay. Alright. So, um, now what fibrotic gyro does essentially is split into two paths. Okay. So, uh, one half is the blue, one part is the red. Um, and if the driver is not moving when the light goes round, it’s going to take the same amount of time to go around both of the paps. So when it recombines like this, uh, you wouldn’t see any kind of interference pattern. But if the driver is rotating like this, uh, that literally makes one of the past, the lighthouse duty travel shorter, which means that when it gets back to the point that the light recombines, the, the lightweight would be out of sync with each other and you would get an interference pattern showing. Now that’s how the fiber optic gyro would measure a 15 degree drift because the Java itself would literally be moving, making one of the pastors are like shorter and it’s not an EDI 15 degree power adrift. It would register. He left it for like 365 days. Um, it would literally show you an entire rotation around the sub as well. It would lot drift, obviously lots about one degree a day, so it’d be a lot harder to see lot. But seeing the 15 degrees per hour because of their side effects is very easy. And modern aircraft have three of these ones measured. The pitch one’s measured, your one’s measured row because they are so precise in measuring the movement of what they’re actually on.

Speaker 2: (54:32)
Okay. Let me ask a question then. So, um, what do you think of Bob’s explanation here? Uh, that it’s the ether, it’s measuring. If there were such a thing as the ether just hypothetically and we’re on a flat stationary plan and we’re moving, would it react with that gyro in the same way?

Speaker 5: (54:48)
No. Uh, there’s a gyro like that doesn’t um, have any kind of outside influence. It doesn’t know what’s going on outside the gyro at all. Um, it is literally just measuring the movement of the dry area itself and therefore the thing is attached to, um, Bob tries to use the fact that, um, Oh the, the ether has this kind of talk toroidal spin coming down that that’s at 15 degrees per hour. That’s what it is, what it registers. But light would not be affected by and whatever the ether is in that way because it’s not an electromagnetic field or anything like we could, we’d be able to measure that. It’s nothing that could ever affect the light in that gyro in the way you, the, they are saying because it would literally have to be slowing down the light for one of the paths rather than the path itself becoming shorter or longer. So, um, when Nathan Thompson, for instance, related to a federal, so he really has no idea what he’s talking about. So, um, no, I honestly, even if the ether was a thing, which it’s really not much more clearly sure that I, you know, I don’t think it would be able to pick up my, the head of the energies as Paul said.

Speaker 2: (56:06)
Interesting. Okay. So I don’t have enough information about that particular tool to know if I can, uh, reliably make my determination based on that alone. I don’t think that laser tests are going to be effective. There are too many things that would mitigate that being an effective way of testing for insight. He was lack.

Speaker 5: (56:22)
Yeah. I don’t see, think the later tests are kind of useless because we all know that you light is affected by the atmosphere and you know, things can refract, so it’s very hard to how to Alaysia tests after you show you what you want it to show you because you could say, Oh yes, it’s reaching that point, but then you can say, well, there’s actually curving with the earth. So, um, I think [inaudible] did a very good video ones and white laser tests are actually not very reliable. Uh, which is why he, for me it comes down to things like this that actually show the physical rotation of the earth. Um, and do you know what the pendulum effect factors?

Speaker 2: (56:59)
Yeah. Okay. Like, so for example, you take the yeah, the pendulum and people make claims, you can tell where you are in the world based on its movement. Um, I don’t know if, I think that is, um, viable. It looks like it could be gamed. It looks a little too, um, like the thing about water going down the drain or coral effect, do you think that snipers take the rotation of the earth into account for long distance shots? Whoa.

Speaker 5: (57:24)
Cypress very rarely shoot over a kilometer. Um, and uh, I mean the U S military, uh, the us Marine Corps sniper manual doesn’t go over a thousand kilometers. And I didn’t think, sorry, one kilometer. Uh, I don’t think for kind of that link you would need to take the CoreOS into account. Um, I have high snipers. Tell me the, for longer shorts. Yes, they do have to take into account. Um, but we know for a fact that, um, ballistics you have to take into account you, um, the, the famous story of, uh, during the world war where the British were shooting artillery and they taken into account for what they thought was a car that was forced, but they ended up being twice as far from the targets as they were essentially. And that’s because of the equipment was industry just designed to work in the one Hanasarah. So they had to kind of reverse that [inaudible] right. All these things add up to the, you know, the Coriolis forces real, um, however you said about Walter, you’re going down the drain that thought kind of an urban myth and the Coriolis forces very little to do with which weighty workers down the drain.

Speaker 2: (58:36)
But isn’t it interesting how many of these urban myths are taught in schools at the elementary level? And then when you talk about fighter, the first thing people say is, Hey, my friend’s in Australia where he’s upside down in the water goes the opposite way and these things get passed on. And then you get Jimmy Kimmel who says that he can look at the horizon and he can see it bend. So I don’t see people fact checking what they’ve originally been taught. So right or wrong, at least flat earthers are going through this stuff and pouring through it. I have a question for you. Do you think it’s a contradiction that the moon is both Tyler tidally locked to the earth and also said to have its own axial rotation?

Speaker 5: (59:14)
No, because that’s kind of all title in is the actual rotation of the earth map of the moon, um, matches the rotation of the earth. So that means the, by the time the moon does one full rotation, it’s also done a rotation of the earth, um, meaning the, the face always stays towards the earth. And that’s simply to do with um, gravity pushing and pulling. So, um, if you, uh, imagine the moon spinning, rotating a lot faster than it is, I ain’t going around the earth. He, the gravitational forces are going to be trying to slow down that sin. Uh, and then it gets to a point where it’s an equilibrium with the rotation of the, the, the immune right to access and the rotation of the moon around here. And that’s just a natural equilibrium over the gravitational forces acting on that.

Speaker 2: (01:00:15)
Yeah, I understand that and how it’s described as synchronous rotation. And so I’m looking very closely at the moon and what we’re told and what it’s supposed to be and how it’s supposed to work. And I find it very problematic that its face is always towards us. And I can understand if it was locked and its face was basically, um, locked to us. But the fact that they say it’s rotating and we never see the back of it and they say, Oh, it’s just because of our relative position to the earth, it’s almost too perfect to believe. I understand that’s an argument from the incredulity, but I find that it’s very hard to believe and I hope they’re right because if they built space

Speaker 5: (01:00:47)
just arguing, um, you can look at it. We’ll get every muse and solar system. I’m you, they’re all totally locked as well. Uh, you know, you [inaudible] you can look at the music Jupiter and you observe these things for yourself. You know, I mean, being tightly locked isn’t an abnormal thing. Um, and when you actually look into the reasons why it happens based on the heliocentric model, it has to happen.

Speaker 2: (01:01:14)
Okay. Then I’ve got another question. So the earth is an overlay spheroid I understand. It’s so a minute Leo blade, you can’t see it. But the idea is that it’s spinning. So it’s kind of like hand tossed pizza. It’s getting chubbier in the middle as it spins. How come we don’t have any pictures of old blade planets anywhere. The only one that we’re told as a blade is the earth. And yet our imagery of it is all very spherical. Spherical is a ping pong ball. Where are all the old late planets?

Speaker 5: (01:01:42)
Well, um, again, there’s a reason why our plan is only very slightly old. Like you would have to assume that other clients would only have a very, a slight obliqueness. Um, did we, we don’t really see Pat plates spinning like a whirling top. Uh, so you would have to think that the centrifugal forces are never there to make that actually happen. Um, I don’t know what would happen if there was a planet spinning, you know, it was so faster. It would flatten itself out. I’m not, I’m not sure, but I think I could say with certainty that we’ve never observed appliance spitting enough for the [inaudible] bleakness to be that news.

Speaker 2: (01:02:22)
Okay, that’s fair. Um, couple of the questions. One, there’s no space dust. So if I get a little bit of a dust storm where I live, I can’t see the mountain peaks eight miles away. And yet between earth and the moon, quarter of a million miles, there’s not enough dust to cloud up even a single star between the earth and Mars is millions of miles. Yet there’s no clouds at night in outer space blocking any stars. And for the amount of tonnage of debris up there and the amount of dust that’s actually hitting the earth every day, there ought to be some kind of cloud cover beyond our immediate atmosphere out there in space. At least occluding the stars here and there. And I never see it.

Speaker 5: (01:03:00)
I mean the sitting clients is XYZ spaces massive. And there, there isn’t that you massive dust clouds just kind of rolling around in space. Um, um, Oh, I would say a good way to kind of put this into perspective is that if you look at the rings of Saturn, right? You would think that they’re kind of a hard tangible thing. There’s a ring, but no, there’s like an average about a kilometer. Uh, yeah. Maybe more between kind of the objects that are inside his rings. There’s nothing, you know, it’s not like a whole bunch of tidy pop things together that you could grab as well. It’s just because it’s so massive. It looks like they’re closer together and I suppose it’s the same as space space is just so massive. The any clouds of dust are going to be sued if you, so they’re never really going to be an issue for us to see or deal with.

Speaker 2: (01:03:54)
I just figured after millions of miles, because the amount of dust in terms of like the weight of dust, let’s say there might be a ton of dust between me and that mountain peak eight miles away, but I would just think that it would aggregate and it would accumulate and at least once in a while we’d have a dark patch in the sky. I was told by space news.com that there is a dust moon orbiting the earth between the earth and the moon and it is 70 times wider than the moon and it could hypothetically black out the moon on any night. And yet I’ve never seen this dustmen so a lot of my disbelief comes from, I’ve never seen a lot of the things they say are up there.

Speaker 4: (01:04:29)
[inaudible]

Speaker 5: (01:04:32)
um, I mean most of the things they say are up there, you can literally observe yourself with any commercial grade telescope. Um, well I think one thing I have to ask you is when we go to things like we are learning about gravitational waves and when we’re detecting gravitational waves, we’re like, Oh, what is this all just keeping up the goal? I am just inventing more things to, to keep the light going. What would be the point of investing all that money in creating Lego if space isn’t a real thing?

Speaker 4: (01:05:05)
[inaudible]

Speaker 2: (01:05:06)
uh, because space is ultimately the religion that’s being used to ensnare the entire human race and throw them back into feudalism.

Speaker 4: (01:05:14)
Yeah.

Speaker 2: (01:05:14)
Oh, sorry about that. Yeah. The reason why I’m is, uh, because the idea of outer space is the linchpin that holds this whole false paradigm, utopian vision together, outer space as a utopian vision. And I think that all the sciences are being perverted or Curver to fit this end. You know, there are physicists right now who say that the universe is flat, right? They say it’s a flat, infinite universe. I find a lot of people who they probably are legitimately, um, pure intentions doing their work as they think they should be doing. But at some point it goes from science into pseudoscience. Just like the reporters on the ground for the news media, they may be well intentioned thinking, they’re just reporting the news. But whoever runs a corporation has an ulterior motive. And so I’m saying there’s a lot of good natured people in all these different fields who are being misled. And I can tell you the astronauts are not being misled if they’re, if this thing is true, if the earth is flat, every single astronaut is an actor through and through. Some of them are scuba divers and pilots, but they’re actors, not space travelers. Okay. Alright, so let’s [inaudible]

Speaker 5: (01:06:20)
say I’m a, I’m a kid growing up and uh, I love space and I want to be an astronaut and I’ve worked really hard and I call it my degrees and I have gone through the NASA trade in program

Speaker 2: (01:06:30)
[inaudible] space. I think you’re told when you’re moving up through the ranks you’re going to be selected for certain things. There’s a TV show in the UK called space cadets and it describes the process of choosing the contestants for what was going to be a hoax. And they selected people who they knew would fall for it. They have various indicators and five of the people on this craft believe they were in low earth orbit for the duration of the TV show. So I think there’s a lot of deception. I think it’s a need to know basis. And I think that deception is the rule, not the exception here when it comes to the sciences high up. I think the media, the government controlled media and the government controlled science are all in a conspiracy to hide the nature of the world that we’re on. And I think that NASA is just a religion at this point. Okay. Um, so,

Speaker 5: (01:07:27)
you know, there’d be no point in anyone actually trying to,

Speaker 2: (01:07:31)
uh, go and become an astronaut. Then I would say this. Okay. So if, let’s say you wanted to become an astronaut, I would say, um, obviously keep doing it. The skills you learn, everything’s going to matter, but at some point you’re going to be entering into, um, you’re going to have to enter into the realm of either being a dupe or one of the Dupers on the space. Cadet show. Five of the people on deck were actors, the other five were the dupes. So it’s just a matter of what side are you going to be on? If you’re going to be at Duke, you’re going to be a useful idiot your whole life. Uh, that’s what you’ll do. And I think the people who are holding up the deception are the ones who are selected, the ones who are willing to lie and deceive, to gain an upper hand in life. It’s a criminal conspiracy. And you think about it.

Speaker 5: (01:08:14)
Um, I mean if you,

Speaker 1: (01:08:17)
if the earth was flat, then yes, it would be a criminal conspiracy, but there’s so much evidence that says the earth isn’t flat. That’s the thing. Um, I’ve talked to you about, uh, [inaudible] rotation and, and you kind of skipped over pendulums and, uh, of you that there’s a channel or a channel called the the gentleman physicist that did this and it’s something I’m trying to recreate at the moment where you can use a pendulum to kind of locate your position based on the amount of swing that the pendulum gives over a certain amount of time. Um, okay.

Speaker 5: (01:08:48)
Do you agree that pendulums can show the rotation of the earth?

Speaker 2: (01:08:52)
Okay. What about vocals, pendulum and things like that? Right. I think, I think Foucault’s pendulum. I think the Cavendish experiment, I think these things are all just meant to give an appeal to an authority and appeal to tradition. I think that these are all just things that need to be tried out. Again, I don’t think we should site experiments from 150. I don’t think that we should have settled science. Like the climate change. Scientists want to say absolutely and [inaudible] and that’s one thing. Science

Speaker 5: (01:09:19)
isn’t a settled thing. You know, our, our, our knowledge is always increasing. Um, but when you say about the Cavendish, there is people that have done it recently. There’s um, a global effort called BM verbal, um, an absolute amazing guy. Everyone please check out BM verbals channel. If one of my mods could put his link in the chat and he has it. He’s um, he lives in South Korea and in his apartment he has recreated his own cabin dish experiment and the data shows that mass attracts mass. Um, so there is evidence that mass attracts mass and gravity is what we say is

Speaker 2: (01:09:55)
okay. So some guy in South Korea in his apartment figured this out, see, like, look, if it’s repeatable. So if we can get people all across the planet to do it at the same time, repeatable. And this is why I said earlier, what would I, what I would find compelling is if you could get 10 or 15 people on a single night to catch the same ISS transit and put that footage back to back and make it contiguous because there’s no way you could refute that.

Speaker 5: (01:10:22)
Okay. Um, I mean that maybe that’s something that flower firs should be trying to do, to disprove at once. And for all a w when, when I say about [inaudible] doing it in, in his own apartment, that kind of says to me that it is a repeatable thing that anybody can do. I mean, there’s no special equipment involved here that I’ve just managed to do it himself and over refinement of figure out the best way to actually measure the, the, the phenomenon of mass attracting mass. Um, and the reason why a I wanted to talk about gravity is because when we look at gravity and we use Newton’s law of universal gravitation, uh, ethicals GM one M two of our squared that says that we have to be honest veer. Um, so that fundamental equation, uh, the, the law of as it’s called, is that something that you dispute?

Speaker 2: (01:11:18)
Um, I have to dispute it as a pseudoscience at this point. I think everything that we’ve, um, been pretty much educated on has been to reinforce this basic notion of the spinning ball and Helio centrism. And so, no, I really don’t think we should be appealing to ancient Greeks either. I hate it when people say all the Greeks knew it was a ball. I don’t think that’s valid. Um, personally I think the arguments that are made for the ball and for flat earth and a lot of them are bad. Um, I don’t think that, um, boats go over the horizon, but I don’t think we should feel the earth spinning if it were spinning.

Speaker 5: (01:11:51)
I mean, that didn’t really answer the question of, um, do you agree that there is this downward et cetera enforce the, is making things accelerate towards the ground?

Speaker 2: (01:12:00)
Oh yeah. As I said earlier, yeah. I don’t dispute any of what we observe. I’m just saying that the, uh, underlying causes or explanations are being skewed. So they’re taking real science and then they’re augmenting it with a little bit of, you know, a little bit of ball, throw some curve in there. They’re throwing this all for a little curve here with this stuff. So

Speaker 5: (01:12:20)
[inaudible] the thing about the, the acceleration is the, um, it changes depending on where you are on the earth. Uh, you and the centrifugal, et cetera. Aeration could be slightly different as certain points. And based on the math of our model, you, we can calculate exactly what the acceleration should be at what points on the earth. So why would the acceleration be different at different points on the earth? And why would that comport with, with the model of it being a sphere?

Speaker 2: (01:12:50)
Uh, that’s a good question. But also when you’re starting off with the presumption, you’re on a ball and you’re measuring the acceleration, different points, you know, you’re starting with that as an assumption that you know, the size to be 25 K and I don’t think that starting, I think guy start ground zero and I’m saying flat in rejecting the stuff that comes from NASA, the space agencies and anything trickling down from that, assuming this basic paradigm to be true. I mean this also throws in into um, question, uh, timelines involved, you know, big bang. How many is the earth? 4 billion years old dinosaurs. All this stuff is up for question right now in my mind.

Speaker 5: (01:13:27)
Okay. I mean there’s so much to unpack there. Um, I just want to kind of really stick with the, the gravity thing of the moon because there isn’t an assumption of the ball. Um, when you do these gravity measurements, um, yeah, you can do the Cavendish experiment. Uh, and then there’s a similar similar thing called the Shelly and experiment where they literally manage that. They use the, the mass of a mountain to register the, the movement of a plum Barb and the, it shows that mass attracts mass, not just downwards but you know, sideways, whichever, wherever masses, massive tracks mass. And based on the calculations that we get from these experiments that are repeatable, uh, and are done all the time near, the only way that they work out is if we have a sphere near the maps for the universal law. Gravitational attraction doesn’t work if you’re on a flat desk.

Speaker 2: (01:14:23)
Well or plate this, yeah, this is, I guess what I want to see fine tuned. And this is where this argument ultimately has to go is, um, where is the legitimate science ending and where is ideology being inserted? There were people can say with equal certainty that the earth is heating up and climate change is a fact. And I’m saying, well, where does your actual meteorology end? And your agenda of saying the earth is overheating because of America, where is that being inserted? And I think that the science has been corrupted. I think everything you’re citing, um, the information you’re citing from it sounds legit, but I’m really calling into question whether you can cite these as sources.

Speaker 4: (01:15:01)
Both.

Speaker 5: (01:15:01)
Like I said, when there’s things that are done all the time, like the Cavendish experiment and it clearly shows that there is an attraction between mass. It leads you to only one conclusion.

Speaker 2: (01:15:13)
Look, I’ve got a guy who calls me up sometimes. Um, he was a, um, he was in then he was in the coast guard and this is like in 2001 and they went and they did a circumnavigation and so you know, at the time he believed he was on a ball. Anyway, he was up on the lookout deck and I asked him how high up were you? He said 40 feet up above sea level with the bug islands is, and he said he was getting visual confirmation of boats is 60 miles away, verified by radar, 60 miles consistently the whole trip. And so we did a little bit of a math on this and it’s like, well look, the math there would say that we’re not on a ball because these vessels should not have been visible from the view from that, from that distance. And so visual confirmation at 60 miles and 40 feet up would be contradicted by this eight inch.

Speaker 5: (01:16:01)
I mean I, I, I would love to, to see the photos and everything cooperate in that. But obviously whenever you’re talking about photos and looking at stuff that if there is refraction to be taken into account and it kind of works both ways, you know, glue Burford can say, Oh well that that was refraction. Cole’s not in, so can flatter refers and it’s very hard to actually say without being there and know in the, the, the humidity, the temperature of, of the water and everything. Exactly what you should be able to see at what point. But you know that that’s not really something tangible and hard. The I can go and recreate myself and, and it just comes back to something as simple as the Cavendish experiment proven that master tracks mass. And the reason I keep bringing that up is because the math works when you do it from the center of something to the center of something. And that itself means that we have to be on a sphere.

Speaker 2: (01:16:59)
Okay, I’m going to take a closer look at all this and we’ll have to do a followup. I just want to point out, look, if we’re right, there are certain things that no longer can exist. So if the is not a ball and if there is no low earth orbit, then there’s zero chance of nuclear Holocaust. Nothing’s going to be flying over that distance. Um, if this is the case, global warming is going to be fake and you don’t have to worry about asteroids. And they said that when you wiped out in 2029, you’ve got to get to Mars because that asteroid upon office is scheduled to come kill us on that Friday the 13th in April. Well, if we’re right, none of these things that you have to fear need to be feared anymore.

Speaker 5: (01:17:38)
Well, um, I don’t think I fear anything like, uh, astral ashtray, Jay, anything. Because if it was coming, we wouldn’t be able to innocent about it. Um, but it’s all very kind of wishy washy for from your point, I’m not trying to be rude, but there is no solidness coming from any of your arguments is very much just you think that one is lying to you. Therefore these things are probably well improperly.

Speaker 2: (01:18:07)
Well no, it’s pretty solid when I’m seeing through as a video editor green-screen when I see a rear screen projection, when I see, um, a lack of parallax appropriate parallax on the moon footage. So what I’m saying is know what I’m being shown is a bunch of cartoons and it reminds me of when I was a kid, I was, I was given a lot of myths to believe with a religion. And with the space program, it’s the same thing. I’m just choosing not to believe in your really expensive, overpriced religious art that pretends to be a description of reality and our place in it. That’s all. And it’s not wishy washy because what you’re giving us is utter crap. If the ISS gave us graphics as good as that movie Sandra Bullock was in gravity, I’d be on board. I’d be totally on board. But what they show us has too many holes in it and it would, I’m just doing due diligence here. You know, I’m not even that radical of a skeptic.

Speaker 5: (01:18:58)
Even talking about the ISS, I’ve never seen any footage that couldn’t be explained where we’ve, you know, normal logic. Uh, and you know, I honestly, I’ve never seen anything that has convinced me that anything on the ISS is fake. Uh, I, you know, I’ve seen all the videos that a lot of flight reefers put out saying that, Oh, this person just faded out. Um, all of a sudden, and Oh, well this person was clearly on a harness and you know, it, it’s all just encouraging city more than anything.

Speaker 2: (01:19:28)
Wait, wait, wait. Did you see the one where the microphone went inside of Chris Hetfield’s neck? No blood and that microphone had went into his throat. That’s how bad the augmented virtual reality layers. We’re overlapping and we’re laughing at this stuff. We’re laughing because Chris Hadfield has a microphone stuck through his neck and you guys got to pretend like you can’t see that. You’ve got to pretend like you can’t see it. It’s a naked emperor and we’re saying he’s got no clothes and you’re like, Oh, well you just don’t have the sophistication to see these fine ropes.

Speaker 5: (01:19:58)
Nope. See, I, uh, I’ve not seen one with a microphone in the throat. Uh, but all the, maybe I have, I’m not sure, but a lot of the ones I’ve seen, for instance, the, um, I’m sure you’ve seen the one where there’s national going off to a side room and he kind of feeds out as he’s going into the side room and yeah, that can be explained simply as a transition between scenes, you know, um, the, the rest of the rooms not changing. The only thing changing there is the, the fact the astronaut is moving. So the scene has transitioned as the astronaut leaves the room, it’s going to look like he’s just disappearing. If you then putting up just as an image of the room with nothing in

Speaker 2: (01:20:36)
yeah. Right, right. That’d be, that’d be a crossfade. Okay. A crossfade wouldn’t count. Okay. Here’s one for you. There’s one where Chris Hadfield is eating asparagus and it’s really gross. He’s like licking his fingers. And I’m like, dude, how many times have you washed your hands up there? And 20 years the same astronauts and cosmonauts if you can, using that same toilet. And he, so he’s sitting there with his fingers eating asparagus cause you know, using sanitizer in your hands isn’t enough. So he’s using a [inaudible], he’s eating asparagus and you actually see him cutting the packet open to the scissors and there’s a point in the video, look it up, Chris Hadfield eating asparagus with a scissors disappear and move to the other side of the room. They glitch. That glitch cannot be explained with logic. It can be explained with final cut pro for and sloppy editing.

Speaker 5: (01:21:23)
Come on, I can edit better than that. So this is one thing that gets me right is that NASA are clever enough to have perpetrated this hoax for the last 50 years. At least a year. They fooled everyone into thinking that the, the, the earth that we went to, the moon, they managed to do amazing effects. You 50 years ago, the most movie producers say would have been impossible back then, but they’re also stupid enough to leave in a glitch of something popping for one side of the room to the other. If I was an organization perpetrate in this enormous hoax, I would not let shit slip through. I’ve only just started using Adobe after effects and stuff and learning the intricacies of compositing and everything. And you know, I wouldn’t make those mistakes. So I don’t think if NASA were smart enough to do this, they would also be stupid enough to make those little mistakes.

Speaker 2: (01:22:21)
Yeah, that’s a good point. That’s a very good point. And I think, um, and I’ve noticed this not just with space, but with a lot of the news on the ground, like, and there is a lot of fake news. We can agree like Jessie small it fake, lynched himself. You know, we see these instances of fake news hoax is leaking out there. You know, 66% of reported hate crimes have turned out to be fake. So what I’m saying is this, it’s always been this way. The space program has always been sloppy. The media hoaxes have always been sloppy. The differences in 2019 everyone has a smartphone and everybody shares information. So the difference is now we’re finally noticing and they weren’t ready for it. In other words, we woke up as a collective of hyper critical awake individuals scrutinizing this footage. We’re paying attention and, but you could look back 10 years, 20 years, 25 years. And it’s laughable. They contradict themselves. So many times the Coke Wars with Pepsi and Coke went up and outer space and they were drinking Pepsi and Coke in space. When now they say, and this is from NASA’s a, their food department. Well, we can’t have carbonation in space. It doesn’t work. So like, which is at Koch Wars in space or you can’t drink carbonation space because the way the carbonation doesn’t, uh, it doesn’t separate properly, whatever. They’re constantly contradicting themselves. They’ve been sloppy and goofy from day one. The challenger astronauts are not dead.

Speaker 5: (01:23:38)
Come on now, that’s a grabber, not go there. Cause uh, I, I find that disrespectful to the families of, of those people.

Speaker 2: (01:23:46)
Well, I find it disrespectful that those people would disrespect billions of people on the earth, including school children. Did they traumatize that footage wasn’t live. There’s no reason for them to have wheeled those TVs into our classrooms and showed us the footage. Oh look, kids, we’re going to watch a rocket go up. They knew it blew up because that was a replay. So if anybody should be offended, it’s me and everybody here who had to watch that BS. So no, I don’t think they’re dead. I think the whole thing is a farce. I think that URI gagger and the first man in space is also Neil Armstrong. And I wouldn’t be surprised if buzz Aldrin isn’t just George C. Scott. It’s just an act.

Speaker 5: (01:24:23)
Right? Um, I think we’re gonna have to, to end it there then, um, uh, when it gets to talks about things like the challenger and that, uh, I find it very hard to continue. Um, so, uh, I do want to say the, it’s up. It’s been a pretty good talk we’ve used up to this point. Um, but that just for me, that’s just a, the and I kind of can’t cross and continue to have a conversation. Um, so, uh,

Speaker 2: (01:24:56)
sure. The feeling, the feeling’s mutual. Look man, it’s a shock. It’s a big slap in the face to find out you’ve been lied to and deceived and you’re on the other side of it. And I think that you’ll feel the same thing when you realize that you’ve been duped. I appreciate you taking the time. I’ll look into all the things that you brought up and I will, um, let you know what I think and then if you want to discuss it, those things in particular, we’ll go back over those.

Speaker 5: (01:25:17)
Alright, well thank you very much for joining me today. Uh, and yeah, that, that was an interesting talk. Have a nice night. Likewise.

Speaker 2: (01:25:25)
Okay, so here we go. Uh, that’s the end of that conversation. So, um, that was a good 90 minutes. I think we covered a lot of ground. He brought up a lot of good points. I think that he’s, um, okay, I want to go back and I want to address this thing about the Cavendish and about mass attracting mass. These are things I want to go over. Um, I hope you all had fun. I did. I did. And look, um, a lot of things are triggering for a lot of people. This is the arena that short that we’re in. And so, you know, this is just the nature of exposing reality and the fact is, um, we’ve been lied to. So what are you going to do? You know, Gaslight yourself. Okay. So let’s get back on track here. This is Takashi 69. Our newest, a flat earth fanatic wearing a flat earth map on his shirt.

Speaker 2: (01:26:27)
Um, let’s see what else we have here yet. Hey, no, it was, um, it was really, uh, an interesting talk. But you can see though, look, we’re dealing with more than just the shape of the world here. We’re dealing with a difference in world views. We’re dealing with a difference in like, look, this is something to a flat earthers as a group of people are not respecting the authorities and to, and too many people that’s tantamount to blasphemy or heresy. So anyway, Hey look, we’re trying really hard right now to get a uh, bit of publicity on what we’re doing. Like when we did this before, you know, we did the billboard before. I think you all have seen it. Research flat earth. Well we have a new plan right now and this could be big. This could be potentially the biggest thing to happen to this topic in a long time.

Speaker 2: (01:27:27)
If we want to blow this up to new audiences and yeah, that will be gnashing of teeth. That will be a lot of crying if we do this right. Okay. So infinite plane radio, coast-to-coast, mobile billboard. Um, I have someone who will match a thousand. We want to get this sponsorship that someone’s me actually. So if we can get another $825 on the infinite plane radio coast to coast mobile billboard, it’ll be this, it’s going to say infinite plane side society down the sides. There’s 85 people watching on YouTube right now and all 85 of you flat round, undecided, ablate, all of you, um, do have a vested interest in this thing blowing up. And this billboard will do just a trick. It’s actually part of a, a movie tour. Mike’s going to go promote his movie rocket man.

Speaker 2: (01:28:23)
And part of the promotion is, um, while he’s paying for the trip, the gas and everything, by having somebody rent out this a limousine space and a billboard that’s going to be towed. So this is what we are working on right now. It’s going to say infinite plane radio. Open phones for open minds, (505) 510-4226. So we’re gonna have the phone number on here. We’re going to have some provocative billboard on the back. I don’t know what yet. We’re still working it out. And then we are also going to have the infinite plane side on the side and going to be having this thing live streamed at any of the meetups he goes to. But really what we want to do is we want to grow our audience back up from, you know, 500 live viewers a thousand lives. We want to bring it back up.

Speaker 2: (01:29:13)
If we can get 500 to a thousand people watching and we bring up any topic at the best, you know, the research will come in, it will come in and it’s something else. Um, we aren’t gate kept and you see it, you saw what happened, right? There’s a lot of people do have to gate keep, and I understand on YouTube you have to be gatekeeping your own material. You can’t talk about certain things without risking your channel and it’s really too much to risk. Uh, what we’re trying to do is break out of that entirely by having, uh, really a grass roots organic listener base that isn’t just a YouTube audience. And so we’re multi-platform when this thing goes across the country. We’ll have mixed [inaudible] back on. So they’ll be an audio stream at infinite plane radio. It’ll be open phones every single night, night after night. Open phones for open minds.

Speaker 2: (01:30:06)
Um, is kind of our catch phrase here. And yeah, everything’s on the table. I think that Bigfoot’s boring aliens are boring. I think there are far more interesting things to talk about and we get a lot more perspectives this way. So anyway, even if you don’t have anything to contribute, that’s cool. If you don’t mind, just go there and share it. Hit the share button, hit the tweet button. It’s a mobile billboard going coast to coast. It’ll get a lot of publicity. You’ve seen the success of our previous, um, billboard campaigns. All right, so I’m gonna go ahead and take off. Thanks for joining. Um, if you missed it, just go back to the beginning. I’m leaving this video up. Yeah. Basically. Um, fight the flat earth is one of these, um, globe defenders who’s been pretty much on the offensive for what, more than a year now. Uh, he’s got a good following of people, I think a 17,000 people. And what he has done is he has actually elevated the level of intellectual honesty. He did make a point, you know, I say, you know, we shouldn’t, we should see more. Oh, blade plan. It’s, well, nothing spins that fast. Right? So that’s a valid point. Then my question is then why the hell are you telling us these things are obeyed in the first place? Anyway, this is chief Crow into the black space is fake a F

Speaker 6: (01:31:28)
you can see those stars. Oh yeah. We’re never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side. Wait, I mean, it’s planned, but there’s all kinds of that [inaudible] space space. There’s more than stars. You can see planets [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] the deep space away from [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] what happens if you get a week on that? [inaudible] [inaudible] research. April he does on the league at NYU would do lose air here.